UFO stuff & "The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch"

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At 1:31:40 time Luis talks of implants and Morgellons (disease) Fibers. Interesting as this is physical proof. Morgellons: https://www.healthline.com/health/morgellons-disease

I went to YouTube to watch it as it includes interesting comments. There are comments about needing physical proof which with UAPs/UFOs leads to the question of why it is so hard to pin down. With implants, they seem to be designed to self-decompose quickly when they are detected and/or removed. The elements and technology are at a level that we can't say what it is and therefore can not determine that it is proof of anything.
There are videos of Morgellon Fibers moving like worms. It seems to me this weird condition is somehow related to UFOs.

Most doctors ignore the issue, but here is a clinician taking on the mystery:

 
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Luis Elizondo's parents influenced his life committed to America and defending our Democracy. Protecting our country includes the possible threat of UAPs/UFOs being collision hazards in the sky and more. I am from a military family and his mindset is one I can relate to. Yet, he is supremely motivated and highly focused at a level that is hard for an average person to understand. It is maniacal. For me, that is great. This means that when HE took on the UAP phenomenon he took us along for the ride and forced it to be openly dealt with and transparently revealed. He is a committed UAP believer in whatever it is and for that I tip my hat to him.

I may appear to be "all in" with Luis, but there is one thing that makes me hesitant to give him my full faith. And A.J. addresses that near the end of this "typical" implant Why Files story. In the video on this wacky topic, beyond just UFOs being real, aliens are here messing with us, which is a whole unbelievable scenario of stuff associated with it like implants. A.J.'s case is what I am addressing here. See if you can pick out any concerns he has that concur with my thoughts on this out-there topic.

 
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"The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch"​


Season 4 seems to be a work in process with the opening episode offering in May 2023: https://the-secret-of-skinwalker-ranch.fandom.com/wiki/Season_4

Now I have mentioned that though the State of Iowa has had a few UFO/UAP activities, it is far from a hotbed of reports. However! I have discovered what is another connection with IOWA STATE!

I recently learned Edward Ruppelt, a United States Air Force officer probably best known for his involvement in Project Blue Book and author of the essential "The Report On Unidentified Flying Objects" book, is another Iowa State Grad!

He attended Iowa State College where, in 1951, he earned a Bachelor of Science degree in aeronautical engineering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_J._Ruppelt

He joins this group (which to me is oddly long) with Iowa/Iowa State Connections::


James McDonald, a highly regarded Atmospheric Physicist has a PhD (1945) from Iowa State in Physics. McDonald believed UFOs were of great importance, especially after his observation of the phenomena. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._McDonald


Donald Menzel was a famous UFO debunker and taught at the University of Iowa for a short time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Howard_Menzel


Philip Klass was another major UFO debunker and was born in Des Moines and grew up in Cedar Rapids. Klass received a degree in Engineering from Iowa State. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_J._Klass


Donald Keyhoe was from Ottumwa, joined the military, and was a proponent of a Government deep-dive into studying UFOs. Keyhoe was an author and investigator. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Keyhoe


Brad Steiger was born in Fort Dodge. Studied at Luther College and wrote many UFO-related books. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Steiger

Early on in this "Skinwalker" thread, I mentioned an investigation of nightly UFO reports by Ph.D. Harley Rutledge in SE Missouri, near Piedmont in the 1970s. Rutledge's work had an early "Skinwalker-like" goal. His study was the first attempt to use science and degreed scientists, with technical instruments, to capture UFO images, electromagnet effects, and activities, and make visual descriptions.

Rutledge condensed his findings into a remarkable book called Project Identification: https://archive.org/details/rutledge-project-identification You can click on the link and sign in for free and read the book or turn it into an audiobook.

Harley Rutledge spent his childhood in Iowa, (Onawa) though he was born in Omaha. He is on the list of those interested in UFOs with Iowa connections!

First, I urge you to read Project Identification and consider what Dr. Rutledge found. Furthermore, take in what others have noted of the book's goals and findings:

Edward R. Close


Let’s revisit phenomena that might be called borderline, something that may be physical, nonphysical, or a combination of both. Such phenomena may exist in the realm of NDEs, OBEs, and perhaps even ghosts: verifiable, but very subtle. Such phenomena have definite measurable impacts on physical reality. In Operation Identification, Dr. Harley Rutledge concluded that the UFOs he investigated and documented in Southeast Missouri from1973 until he passed away June 5, 2006, impacted physical reality in a very subtle and unusual way. During my visit with him in 1982, he indicated that after the observation posts were set up on Pyle’s Mountain near Piedmont and sightings were happening every night, the UFOs started following him around, showing up everywhere he went. It was as if the intelligence behind the strange lights was saying: “If you spy on us, we will spy on you!”

Project Identification was the first of its kind...

Initially a skeptic on the subject of UFOs, Dr. Rutledge here presents a full report on Project identification’s ground-breaking work and what its findings imply. Fully illustrated with unique photographs, explanatory line drawings and diagrams, this is the only book to provide hard, factual data from direct observations of the UFO enigma.”

And lastly this video:

 
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Early on in this "Skin Walker" thread, I mentioned an investigation of nightly UFO reports by Ph.D. Harley Rutledge in SE Missouri, near Piedmont in the 1970s. Rutledge's work had an early "Skinwalker-like" goal. His study was the first attempt to use science and degreed scientists, with technical instruments, to capture UFO images, electromagnet effects, and activities, and make visual descriptions.

Rutledge condensed his findings into a remarkable book called Project Identification: https://archive.org/details/rutledge-project-identification You can click on the link and sign in for free and read the book or turn it into an audiobook.

Harley Rutledge spent his childhood in Iowa, (Onawa) though he was born in Omaha. He is on the list of those interested in UFOs with some Iowa connections!

First, I urge you to read Project Identification and consider what Dr. Rutledge found. Furthermore, take in what others have noted of the book's goals and findings:

Edward R. Close




Project Identification was the first of its kind...



And lastly a very important video:



Mark Rutledge was Harley Rutledge's son and in an interview with Erica Lukes and Scott Browne gave his accounts of helping his father in the field investigation into the SE Missouri UFO flap of 1973-74.

 
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Project Identification video Part 2 & 3:

Unfortunately, you need to click over to YouTube to watch...



 
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I may appear to be "all in" with Luis, but there is one thing that makes me hesitant to give him my full faith. And A.J. addresses that near the end of this "typical" implant Why Files story. In the video on this wacky topic, beyond just UFOs being real, aliens are here messing with us, which is a whole unbelievable scenario of stuff associated with it like implants. A.J.'s case is what I am addressing here. See if you can pick out any concerns he has that concur with my thoughts on this out-there topic.



More on why you would trust CIA/Intelligence insiders to tell the truth when it seems they are always manipulating information releases.

From 3:00 to past the 10:00 minute mark offers comment on this:


 

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How to remove the unreliable human factor from UAP hunting? Put a camera on Mars.
  • A UFO/UAP camera on Mars is being proposed for a new mission to the red planet. it would monitor the sky for clouds, meteors, lightning … and other “unusual activity.”
  • Plus, a swarm of robotic drones has been proposed to drive, walk and fly around Valles Marineris on Mars.

Wild unusual observations “out there”.

 
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I'm very interested in UFO/UAP stuff but I struggle finding the right videos to watch on YouTube. Some of the videos are nuts who believe anything, some of them are just garbage and I lose interest quickly.

Can someone here recommend YouTube channels where they show good footage/interviews/content and are at least attempting to be unbiased trying to present fact based evidence? I am equally interested in knowing which channels to avoid.

FYI - have not read the entire thread, apologies if the answer is already in here somewhere.

I should have reposted this exceptional video in response to your request:

 

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Project Identification video Part 2 & 3:

Unfortunately, you need to click over to YouTube to watch...





So, a Scientist with a Ph.D. in Physics, Harley Rutledge, did his best to use what he could to investigate and pin down what he could about UAPs in the SE Missouri UFO flap of the 1970s.

Twin brothers are now doing the same with updated equipment on the East Coast of the United States, and they have captured UAP on multiple sensors. Ross Coulthart sits down with Gerry Tedesco, John Tedesco, and Donna Lee Nardo of Nightcrawler Research:


 

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I looked up the people in the film. Looks like the possibility of another "take my word for it" deal but no one stands out as a charlatan.

Hope they have some solid evidence. Although that would have its own set of issues
I'll admit I haven't looked into the backgrounds of the people interviewed in the film, but it seems to be the most credible list of people anyone has ever gotten to talk about this stuff on the record.

 

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A newly exposed 2018 video is released by Jeremy Corbell from classified sources of a Jellyfish-shaped UFO from an Iraq military compound. The first video below is that object and the two links following that are of similar acting objects that move slowly, oddly-shaped "Rubber Duckie" and "Witch," What are they if they are not just floating junk?








Well. I honestly think I saw one of these "jellyfish" UAPs yesterday morning (Thursday 4/24/25) at approximately 7:25am crossing 235 slowly from north to south near the 22nd St interchange about 30 feet off the ground; hovering over traffic. I was driving my child to daycare so I didn't have time to stop and investigate/take pictures. As I crossed under headed west, I initially thought I was seeing a traffic cam, but it clearly wasn't attached to anything. My next guess would have been a drone, but I saw no propellers. The color was desert tan and looked like one of Uncle Owen's moisture vaporators approximately 2 feet tall hanging in mid air. Did anyone else see this?
 

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