Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

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I think the really interesting stuff is going to come when you start getting examples of kids getting $1M+ to go play for some school and they end up getting hurt, leaving or in trouble.

How do you handle something like Xavier Foster?
Lets say back a couple years ago we got him $500k/per year to commit and play here. (at the time he was a very highly recruited player)
Year 1 - Hurt
Year 2 - Legal issue and booted.
Just seems like we (as a society) are dumping a lot of cash into such uncertain things. Maybe some of these NIL deals have clauses? you get kicked off, you lose the funds?

I have no problem with the NIL with rules and limits.
What would be so bad about putting rules on the NIL and some limits? otherwise its going to end up like coaching and only a limited amount of schools can offer this up.

as for Tyrese, i think its sad. I don't know the money difference, but I get it. But he may also find himself in a worse situation where he not the focal point of the team and tank his stock also. who knows.
Hunter was setup to run this team next year. Disappointing.
It's those types of situations that will level out NIL. There's always going to be deals and cash, especially for the elite level talent, but maybe not to the depth we're seeing it right now.
 

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I'm guessing JP managed to get some sort of donor help to fund the $5 mil to get rid of Prohm. Surely, we could find the donor help to fund $1 mil to keep Tyrese.
 
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Sad or hear some of you are feeling less benevolent. I strongly encourage everyone to find another cause to support if you choose not to support the athletic department. The world becomes a better place when people make it better. I firmly believe part of that is one looking beyond themselves. Those of you that feel you cannot do it financially, I suggest you use a few hours to volunteer. Many worthy causes to invest time into. I also know some of you already do this. JMO
 
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Don't know. But how does that compare to other schools?
No idea but here’s a list of 50 impactful donors and we’re not on the list

 

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I'm guessing JP managed to get some sort of donor help to fund the $5 mil to get rid of Prohm. Surely, we could find the donor help to fund $1 mil to keep Tyrese.

For 1 year? And in a crapshoot sport like CBB? The likelihood of getting back to even the Sweet 16 with TH is still small. Let alone winning the conference regular season, or making it past the Sweet 16.
 

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IMO this may not work for Tyrese like he thinks
I'm guessing JP managed to get some sort of donor help to fund the $5 mil to get rid of Prohm. Surely, we could find the donor help to fund $1 mil to keep Tyrese.

If we are going to spend $1 million we should not be getting a 27% 3 point shooter. Tyrese has weaknesses in his game. Inconsistent offensively. Turns over the ball a bit too much.
 

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Due to the pending food crisis, our agricultural sector and related commodities should moon hard. This will be the catalyst to some farmers becoming very rich farmers in Iowa. Surely they will be able to fork over some NIL cash.

Don’t believe me? Check out some ag stonks on the stock exchange such as DBA.
 

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I'm guessing JP managed to get some sort of donor help to fund the $5 mil to get rid of Prohm. Surely, we could find the donor help to fund $1 mil to keep Tyrese.
Is Tyrese worth $1 million? Naw, no chance. That doesn't mean he isn't really good, that's just a large bounty for a pretty good player.
 

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Saying we're a "cheap" fanbase is stupid. There are thousands of people who consistently spend the money to travel to bowl games, bball tournaments, etc. Every event I've went to was always packed with Cyclone fans and local businesses are consistently overwhelmed with how much business we bring. We just don't have the super rich people that are driving the NIL money like some of these other school
I don't know that those things are the same. It's one thing to donate and another to go to an event. It might be fair to call our fanbase cheap. As was noted, the numbers are there when you compare us with the other schools in the conference, and a brief internet search suggests that Iowans in general are not strong givers (I was surprised frankly - I thought we would be).

I still say this particular thing is not worth giving to, but I think there's enough evidence there to call probably both our fanbase and the people of our state cheap when it comes to giving.
 
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Despite some earlier posts, I'm not against some form of increased athlete compensation. But the way it's being managed now - which is to say it isn't being managed at all - is the road to ruin.

One element I really don't like is that the entire argument for increased athlete compensation in the first place was that college athletics has become such a big business and athletes weren't getting a piece of the pie. What's happening now does nothing to change that. We're not sharing the pie; we're growing a new one.

University presidents and athletic directors, the people who got us into this mess in the first place, won't be forced to scale back on building lavish facilities or rein in outrageous coaching compensation. They will still get the same TV money, ticket revenue, and donations and still won't have to share it. It'd be one thing if ADs recognized this and urged people to funnel some of their donations to NIL efforts, perhaps treating NIL gifts the same as donations for booster club purposes, but nobody realistically expects that to happen.

All this does is put even more pressure on fans. Even some of those that could probably handle the extra cost can't stomach the idea of simply bidding on the open market every offseason to find 15 guys to fill a roster and pray that they gel and it works out, only to do it all over again next year.
 

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Paying millions to a prospective recruit that is 18 years old to compete at the College level is not sustainable. NIL payments are yearly. Blowing all that money on the iffy possibility that young kids will be a star. And when those athletes are a bust, what was our investment really worth? Iowa State is likely to not pay the exorbitant NIL fees.
Those with hundreds of millions can spend without care but I bet at some point the lack of return on investment will slow it down some I would guess.
 

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Those with hundreds of millions can spend without care but I bet at some point the lack of return on investment will slow it down some I would guess.

Rich Athletic Boosters don't care about real return on investment, being able to pump their ego is their return on investment. "I gave $XX to get so and so to come to my school and next year I'm giving so and so $XX to come here too" look at me look at me - being able to do that is their ROI. Boosters just want to feel important and hob nob with "important" people and athletes.
 
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Those with hundreds of millions can spend without care but I bet at some point the lack of return on investment will slow it down some I would guess.

Those with hundreds of millions of dollars are not foolish investors. NIL payments of a million to kids coming out of HS is foolish.

How many Iowa State Donors have hundreds of millions that they will donate and not give a care?
 

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Bingo....

I'm by no means a "big donor", but have given about 25k to ISU. That has gone to close to zero given the direction things are going with college athletics. Just not worth it and there are much more important things in life....perspective. My former tailgating partner has given 100K plus and he has taken his donation from Director's to Cardinal. Similar frustrations.


Sorry, but I'm not going to donate to athletes who are already getting a free ride and then some at Iowa State. Better and more important things to do with my money.
 

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I'll watch them in the short term, but eventually (a few years from now?) ,if they become nothing more than a farm team for Kansas, North Carolina etc., I will watch them probably the same way I watch the iCubs. With a lot of apathy. Maybe they can serve beer in Hilton and Trice.
I think this is a good analogy. Almost no one cares if the Iowa Cubs win, it's just the experience.