another sweet 16 and yes. its not a question. im a dumbass and didn't like the hire. thats why i make pizza at caseys and not hire coaches
TJ best coach we have ever had?
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Overall…. if you’re including personality, demeanor, and just everything across the board…. I would say TJ is the best.
If you’re just looking at X’s and O’s only…. I’d give it to LE.
Orr may have done the most for putting the program on the map, but IMO wasn’t the best coach. Hoiberg probably had the most exciting teams to watch from just a pure entertainment value.
If you’re just looking at X’s and O’s only…. I’d give it to LE.
Orr may have done the most for putting the program on the map, but IMO wasn’t the best coach. Hoiberg probably had the most exciting teams to watch from just a pure entertainment value.
TJ is the best. He didn't come in with high talent on the team like Hoiberg left it for Prohm. Hoiberg, was good, but not great. Johnny, was Johnny, but as far as coaching, not TJ. And Larry...... well, he had some high level talent. Give him credit, but TJ still wins!
So far it seems like TJ's version program is the most sustainable even in the NIL era.
It was mentioned last night (I had never heard this) that Haliburton played a big role in the recruitment of Milan. So long as Milan has a good experience, along with many others, that word gets around to keep a pipeline of guys that want to work hard for those around them. Imo that's super underrated.
It was mentioned last night (I had never heard this) that Haliburton played a big role in the recruitment of Milan. So long as Milan has a good experience, along with many others, that word gets around to keep a pipeline of guys that want to work hard for those around them. Imo that's super underrated.
Larry inherited Fizer, Shirley, Rancik and Stevie. So I'd say to this point he's accomplished more but pissed away a fantastic opportunity.
Speaking of stupid moves. Brandon Hawkins, wasn't guaranteed he'd be "the man" so he played 2 years for a crappy San Jose team. Could of been the missing guard along with Sullivan, Power, Shirley and Rancik.
I'd give this nod to Fred. He seemed to very often have some sort of set or mismatch type of situation to pull out to get a bucket.
Larry seemed to have the foundation of playing hard nosed but I don't recall anything out of him from a strategic standpoint that was crazy. Everything's easier with two All-Americans and a bunch of guys that are all-conference worthy.
Listen to the coaches radio show during season, some CW Pods....and while not as boisterous, TJ holds his own with dry humor.
TJ is excellent. Larry so far has to be the best but he had his baggage took him down. For the highs he brought us the lows were there too towards the end.
Very possible, Curtis in particular was of the Tinsley mold Tough as nails. Probably wouldn’t have been intimidated
What's wrong with or not totally realistic about changing everything the team has done for 40 minutes of ball that has gotten them to 23-6 (now 24-6) over the last 3 months?
In his interview earlier with CW he talked about how him and Stinson probably would have butted heads but they also would have had a good relationship and some success together as well similar to Tinsley.
First 3 seasons: Larry 72 wins, Floyd 69 wins, TJ 65 wins and counting, Fred 62 wins. Larry and Floyd fell off after their first 3 seasons, Fred kept winning but left 2 years later. If TJ can make the tourney the next 2 seasons, I think he would have to be considered the best at that point.
Meanwhile, Coach Steven Prohm just got curb-stomped by a bad MO State team 60-35. And people thought our offense was bad. Steven just re-joined the 20 loss club. Just looked it up that he coached here for 6 seasons, hard to believe he was here that long.
Meanwhile, Coach Steven Prohm just got curb-stomped by a bad MO State team 60-35. And people thought our offense was bad. Steven just re-joined the 20 loss club. Just looked it up that he coached here for 6 seasons, hard to believe he was here that long.
That doesn't mean Orr is a better coach, though. More important, sure, but not necessarily better.
All I know is that TJ's first three years could have hardly gone better in my wildest dreams. He clearly has a vision for what this program should be, and brought in the staff and the players to make it happen. In ten years (or maybe even less), I would not be surprised if this question is no contest in TJ's favor.
Probably because after the first couple years with the holdovers from the Hoiberg era, so much of it was forgettable. And the last bit was buried under the covid season and everyone kinda checked out. We didn't even have individual game threads that last season.
