Because he has shown he doesn't have the quickness to guard a Big 12 4.
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Because he has shown he doesn't have the quickness to guard a Big 12 4.
I thought that was more of a poor coaching choice. We decided to send a second guy at Osetkowski when it wasn't needed. THT was doing just fine and has shown he's capable of playing solid D on guys like Osetkowski and Wade. Then we send one guy at Osetkowski and the rest of the defense acted like they've never had to make a rotation like that in their life.
I'd love a stretch of game, or whole game, where there's no automatic double on anyone, especially guys like Osetkowski. Just play straight up, and make the guy make a good move to get to the basket. More often then not the big guys at Baylor (Clark excluded), WVU, TCU, Tech, OkSt, and Ok are not good enough back to the basket players to score in the half court. They're best at crashing the offensive board and getting putbacks, or dump offs after a guard drives.
Lawson, and Clark, when he was playing, are the only automatic doubles I can think of.
You don’t consider Osetkowski or Wade bigs? If that’s the definition than yeah, not many teams are playing 2 bigs.
RE a previous post- Agreed- MJ better learn to guard most 4’s as he’s not a center. Otherwise we’re always going to be limited inside.
Jacobson did a great job on Lawson at Hilton. And really wasn't bad at KU, but Lawson was on another level that night.
My NCAA MB 2K19 Line up is:
1- Wiggs
2 - Shayok
3 - THT
4 - Lard
5 - Conditt
Hali/Talley sub in for THT Wiggs Shayok
Jacobson sub in for Conditt/Lard
Babb get Healthy
Double pick & roll options through Conditt/Lard with Wiggs, Kick out/Slash options for Shayok and THT. Set the world on fire, win gamer tournament for millions.
1- Wiggs
2 - Shayok
3 - THT
4 - Lard
5 - Conditt
Hali/Talley sub in for THT Wiggs Shayok
Jacobson sub in for Conditt/Lard
Babb get Healthy
Double pick & roll options through Conditt/Lard with Wiggs, Kick out/Slash options for Shayok and THT. Set the world on fire, win gamer tournament for millions.
Our guards played great against KU in Hilton and were creating turnovers left and right. It's no coincidence that Jacobson looked better that game, as any of our bigs would have. Jacobson has some nice offensive tools when he catches the ball cleanly and makes a decisive move, although he's hit a bit of a wall on his jumper that was so good earlier in the year, but Jacobson is by far the least athletic of the 3 and despite him being a more traditional 4 based on size and skill set, I'd trust him the least to try and guard another teams "4".
The guy who needs to be guarding the other teams 4 in my opinion is Talley, but outside of West Virginia, Prohm seems to have no interest in playing him for any significant time this year. At this point, his game conditioning wouldn't allow him to get up to more than 15-20 minutes a game, but whatever he did to get suspended must have been pretty terrible and still lurking in Prohm's mind, because he's the one guy with a size and skill set that is lacking among our traditional 7-8 man rotation and could fill in what seems to be some of our biggest weaknesses.
I think it's more that Talley is an offensive liability compared to others that are playing.
Jacobson was physical with Lawson and took him 1-on-1. Not sure what that has to do with the guards. Lawson decided to shoot over him at KU instead of trying to force the issue inside.
I don't know what you're watching. Lard can't guard anybody that goes outside the lane. Remember his performance against Lawson at KU? How about Osetkwoski at Hilton last season? Or Wade at Hilton last season? Lard can guard 5s (not necessarily all that well), and that's it. Just because a guy can run and jump doesn't mean he's a good defender.
He's not a total liability on offense. It's just that he's better moving without the ball as a cutter looking for easy buckets in the paint. I don't mind seeing him with the ball in his hands from about fifteen feet in. I think his defensive ability and versatility could really help the team and he can do enough on offense to not muck things up or throw off the spacing.
But like @MK24Cy said, whatever Talley did to land in Prohm's doghouse must have been pretty bad because he seems to be permanently buried in the rotation.
I'm generally not too critical of our coaches, but I would like to see some of our seldom used players get a few minutes here and there if nothing else to keep them engaged. Not necessarily even every game. You might find someone who is just in the zone (offensively or defensively) on a particular night. When that happens you just go with him.
Didn't he kind of try that in the Texas game? Although I think that was more an act of desperation, just trying to find anyone who would play like they gave a ****.
Talley's, Lewis' and Griffin's first minutes in how many games? It would be extremely surprising if they were productive in that situation.
There are only so many minutes. Talley has played the last four games. Conditt played early against TCU. How long do you wait for a non-rotation guy to get it going? Do they need 7-8 minutes? What if they never get it going? It's easier said than done. You don't keep guys "engaged" at this point in the season. You play the guys that give you the best chance to win.
No, I get what you mean. Nobody was going to succeed in that mess. I'd like to see more minutes for Talley and Conditt. Lewis and Griffin will get their chance next year.
There was a few tweets posted on this very site of him standing there watching the ball or getting out for the break instead of boxing out.
I think the issue is more that those guys come in the game and look like they belong for the 4 minutes they're in but then don't see the court again while the starters continue to struggle. What did Jacobson do better than Conditt on Saturday? What's THT doing better than Talley when he goes 1 for 10 and has 4 fouls on Saturday?
The other guys are starting and getting every opportunity to get in the flow of the game whereas Conditt and Talley get 4 minutes and even if they look good, they don't get back in. Talley had 4 points, a block and 3 rebounds in 7 minutes against TCU at Hilton and 4 points, a block, and 2 rebounds in 6 minutes in the game at TCU. Conditt had 11 pts, 4 rebounds and 1 block in 16 min on Saturday vs Jacobson who had 8 pts, 5 rebounds and no blocks in 24 min.
