He lost ALL credibility when he made it sound like a Big 12 conspiracy against ISU.
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He lost ALL credibility when he made it sound like a Big 12 conspiracy against ISU.
I'm still thinking that came out the wrong way. That they tried to get some change - it didn't happen - and we're still getting screwed because of the lack of change, not necessarily an intentional effort.
I love JP and he has been PHENOMENAL for ISU. But let's not pretend he's the best public speaker in the world.
Agreed. The biggest wins in ISU history (arguably) have come under CPR. Mac had a few - most notably the first iowa win since Reagan, the first bowl win ever and the NU win.
But I think you have to say CPR's likely exceed those in first win EVER against Texas, first in an eternity at NU and the OSU win.
Unfortunately - the past two season have also allowed us to debate which has the worse losses.
I should also point out that any AD that can manage to still fill the seats at Jack Trice, despite our recent record, is incredibly safe... Freaking Michigan State needed to rent out Baylor's old tarp for the game against nebraska. Meanwhile, ISU continues to pack the jack despite not having won a home game since KU last year.
This, coupled with the Hoiberg hire (he essentially won the lottery with that one), will keep JP around for a very long time.
This, coupled with the Hoiberg hire (he essentially won the lottery with that one), will keep JP around for a very long time.
I have a source telling me there is already friction between Rhoads and Mangino. Apparently the big man doesn't know how to use an alarm clock to make it to the staff meetings prior to the games on time. Saturday was the second time this season he was late to the staff meeting and allegedly Rhoads let him have it.
Yep, exactly. All you had to do is watch the OSU game this weekend and see how many empty seats they had in their stadium. And they are nationally ranked.
Just information passed along to me from someone with ties to the program so take it for what it is worth.
I wouldn't call holding your staff accountable "foolish". Leadership and accountability starts at the top and Rhoads has shown numerous times that he will hold people accountable (himself, his staff, his players, etc...)
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this is what I tried to argue all weekend. I agree with JP's stance and that something needed to be done. BUT, I disagree with the notion that you get up to the mic, right after the game, and deliver an emotional diatribe that mixes opinion, suspicion and anger. Not a recipe for credibility in the slightest.
JP has done awesome things for ISU. I can disagree with how it's been done but at the end of the day, butts are in the seats. This, however, was not a calculated business decision. It was an emotional rant fed by the anguish in the locker room. Was it real? Yes. Was it warranted? Probably. Was this the place for it? No.
I'd settle for resigning.
I am not the one that said he has shown numerous times that he will hold himself accountable. To answer your question, yes, for CPR to hold himself ultimately accountable. Of course, if you are still thinking he will turn things around in the next couple of years, there is nothing to hold him accountable to.
There is no way he will resign, but I am also not of the belief that he continually holds himself accountable.
I think Jamie is talking big picture here. He is trying to emphasize that this is bigger than one game or even how it effects a season. Records impact coaches ability to not only keep a job but also the ability of moving up. I think that is what he was trying to emphasize.
Agree with the other posts, Jamie's done too much else to be tied just to the CPR hire.
Agree, but it would be dumb if he got on him enough to make him quit. And that could happen. You think the fat man likes to be accountable to Rhoads after being a much better head coach than him?
