*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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As for Big 10 and Texas, Delany said yesterday he's not going to be reactive. There's a dueling network problem, too.
He has also said for the past two weeks that the remaining 9 are solid and there is no reason to worry about all the speculation about the Big 12 falling apart. I think he is just showing confidence to make the rest of us feel better. I can't knock him for that because that is what leaders do.
That is not JP's MO. I think that his statement about ending up in a VERY GOOD CONFERENCE and the following paragraph from Pete Thamel's column are related.
"A high-ranking college official did say Sunday that the Big East had reached out to multiple Big 12 universities and indicated, much as it did during the Texas-Pac-12 expansion talks last year, that the league would be interested in taking the universities if the Big 12 fell apart. The official said the Big East was not rooting for the demise of the Big 12, but opened up lines of communication in case it dissolved."
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/05/s...ac-12s-expansion-outlook.html?_r=2&ref=sports
Maybe, maybe not. He could know something such as Big East invite, to remaining B12 schools like KU, K-state and us.
Or maybe, he knows that UT and ND are going to form a conference called the big 8 and they have invited: ISU, KU, KSU, BU, MU, and BYU. All teams will play 7 conference games and have full scheduling and broadcast authority for their other 5 games.
I remember JP's comments from last year and while he said it was not time to panic, he did speak to the gravity of the situation and its possible impact on Iowa State's future AD revenue. I have a great deal of trust in JP and his leadership. These comments give me some comfort.
If there is some driving reason for the "4" leagues to be 18-20 instead of 16, ISU would most likely be in the Big Ten.
That reason would likely be a lawsuit, but that lawsuit would have very good grounds if BCS teams and teams like BYU are relegated to a lesser division.
Imagine the Big Ten, ACC, SEC and Pac 12 all expand to 16, they leave out maybe 5-10 schools that have previously been in the BCS leagues or like BYU/BSU that are obviously BCS level of play, tradition, facilities, etc. Really 20-30 teams could make a great legal case. They simply need to point to schools like Duke and Washington State that are clearly worse in many ways as football programs compared to 15-30 schools that get left out.
The Big Ten would have already grabbed Notre Dame and a few new markets. Of what is left they'd practically be begging to add the AAU school located in the middle of 3-4 of their other schools in order to comply with any kind of legal settlement. The Big Ten taking ISU is a much closer match than the Pac 16 having to take Boise State and BYU for a number of reasons, but that's the fight they could face if they try this 4x16 nonsense.
Sorry if been asked, but will the teams that may go tu pac conf, will they have to pay exit fees to remaining big 12 schools?
There has to be a vote to disband the conference. I'm not sure the numbers needed. If that happens, no exit fees.
You can just as well put Mizzou on the other side. Someone will take them. Perhaps the SEC.
Had a good laugh at this post over on tigerboard.com:
There are a few threads over there debating ISU's worth to remain in a major conference, including this other one.
Also, if the chances of landing in a major conference were based on quality of the fan web sites, ISU should be way above Mizzou based on CycloneFanatic vs tigerboard.
There are a few threads over there debating ISU's worth to remain in a major conference, including this other one.
Also, if the chances of landing in a major conference were based on quality of the fan web sites, ISU should be way above Mizzou based on CycloneFanatic vs tigerboard.
B-12 is Dead
Now Okla is contemplating a move. That will happen as will OK-State, Mo, Ks. ISU
should move soon as it is painfully obvious it's over. And may Texas rot in hell. The big bully drove the league into oblivion and its a shame as the league could have been one of the 4 super conferences.
Now Okla is contemplating a move. That will happen as will OK-State, Mo, Ks. ISU
should move soon as it is painfully obvious it's over. And may Texas rot in hell. The big bully drove the league into oblivion and its a shame as the league could have been one of the 4 super conferences.
Re: B-12 is Dead
It's really early and I've only had half of my Mt.Dew so far.....but...... didn't this notion get mentioned a few other threads as of late?
It's really early and I've only had half of my Mt.Dew so far.....but...... didn't this notion get mentioned a few other threads as of late?
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