Thamel: The lean towards a 12-team playoff
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Surprised you didn't find the one from 1998-Now where it had K-State making it 8 times
Surly's just pointing out that all those teams on the three appearance line had their day in the sun. Now back to middle of the pack conference teams.
I think it’s fantastic and should have been this way a long time ago.
And I’m not saying they playoffs will hurt Alabama or Clemson and so on in any way. They are too established, but a few guys who would normally commit to them might think a little more about going to another team with a good chance at more playing time and still having a chance at the playoffs but a slimmer chance of winning it all.
It’s easier for those teams to get upset when they have to play more good teams.
I don't see where having a 12 team playoff PLUS having Conference Championship Games makes sense. The only reason for having both is GREED by college AD's.
I also think having both could create a disincentive for the 2nd place teams that lose in their Conference Championship game. It happens most years. In 2020 would SEC teams A&M and Georgia have made a 12 team playoff over Florida? Similarly, in the Big10 would Indiana have gone over Northwestern? One could argue this is a flaw of Conference Championship Game matchups, the 2 best teams not in the game.
In a similar situation, there could be a situation where the top ranked team in a conference is ranked 8-12 in the final poll before the Championship Game. If the top ranked team loses, there is strong potential no teams from the conference get a bid.
I am sure the SEC and to lesser extent the Big10, view a 12 team playoff as a guarantee to send 3-5 teams to the playoff each year.
I also think having both could create a disincentive for the 2nd place teams that lose in their Conference Championship game. It happens most years. In 2020 would SEC teams A&M and Georgia have made a 12 team playoff over Florida? Similarly, in the Big10 would Indiana have gone over Northwestern? One could argue this is a flaw of Conference Championship Game matchups, the 2 best teams not in the game.
In a similar situation, there could be a situation where the top ranked team in a conference is ranked 8-12 in the final poll before the Championship Game. If the top ranked team loses, there is strong potential no teams from the conference get a bid.
I am sure the SEC and to lesser extent the Big10, view a 12 team playoff as a guarantee to send 3-5 teams to the playoff each year.
There’s no reason to send 4+ teams to the playoffs from a single conference. 3 I could see happen pretty regularly.
No it would not.
The top 12 teams that would normally be in the NY6 bowl games will be in the playoffs.
The 4 teams, as opposed to the current 8, not in the CFP bowl rotation games will just be playing for a consultation trophy.
Auro bids will encourage better nonconference games..
Any team not good enough to win their conference is not good enough to be named national champion.
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Exactly, the 12 teams who would normally be the 12 teams in the NY6 Bowls would be in the playoffs. And you get more games against better competition to end the season. How is that bad? Lol
4 of those 12 teams would be eliminated before Christmas and the other 4 teams will be playing against a team that has had a month to rest, heal and prepare for whomever wins the first round.
12 team format without auto bids is just a watered down version of the 4 team format we have today.
8 or 16 teams. Nobody deserves a bye game.
I try not to create chaos but it's hard to avoid with folks like you looking for it.
This would be massively dumb. Its bad enough that they want to have the stupid 12 game system and give the top 4 a bye, but now giving those same 4 home campus sites for their first game in the playoff?
Yeah **** all that.
Hard disagree. Campus games are way more fun than any sterile neutral site. Plus asking a fan base to go to 3 neutral site games in a row and honestly 4 if you count the CCG is a tall order for almost any fan base.
Campus games for the first round isnt as terrible.
But for the quarterfinals it absolutely is. Especially when the seeding will have all the issues the playoff currently has with the committee. Teams in that top 8 deserve a neutral site.
Why are we trying to reinvent the wheel? FCS and NFL both only do the neutral site until the finals. Why does the quarterfinals need to be the cutoff? For bowls? We've already decided bowls don't mean ****. Rotate them starting in the semis like we do now if you must.
FCS does it that way because its cheap, not because its better.
Going to home sites when the FBS postseason has almost always been neutral sites is the actual 'reinventing the wheel'.
Giving the top 4 a bye and then giving them home games after that is possibly the only thing dumber than just keeping it at 4.
How is it bad? You just keep saying it's bad and not giving a real reason. On campus games are far more fun, raise a lot more money for the home school, a huge recruiting boost, and you get the possibility of **** like Bama going up to Columbus for a game in the snow.
If the concern is that the regular season would be useless then an incentive like a BYE and a home game makes it mean a hell of a lot more.
I mean if you cant understand from a fairness aspect why home sites are worse than neutral sites, there's no point in discussing further.
And then you compound that with a committee that will make sure its favored teams are the ones getting those home slots.
So you want every game including the regular season to be neutral. Got it. Of course it's an advantage that's the ******* point of being a top seed
Do the baseball All-Star thing. Alternate years. Odd number years, teams #1, #3, #5, #7 get to host. Even number years, teams #2, #4, #6, #8 get to host. Stupid idea, but so are many others that actually make it into the game.
