Texas Tech 2011 compared 2012

[peteypie]

It is when you use it to disprove a tired theory that Tech hasn't faced anyone and that gives ISU an advantage.

Let me clarify for you, since you seem a little slow. You haven't faced anyone, and if you are using the argument that you did last year, then you have to look at what they did last year. They got owned by anyone with a pulse. So No you haven't faced anyone and succeeded.

 

[Cycl1]

Exactly. When your team finishes in 9th place in a 10 team conference and gives up an average of 46 points per game in conference games.... you might want to find some new blood to come in and play. I wouldn't be celebrating all of the returning starters.

agree. The last 5 games they played in the big 12 were embaressing. They would have to improve a ton to be world beaters.

 

[D UP Clones]

That is a perfect example of idiocy. Stopped themselves????? LOL Holy crap!

I'm sure tech is improved. They better be because they were terrible last year. ISU could have named the score in that game.

I expect a 10 point ISU win over what has regularly been a soft tech team.

Yes, and ask those same OSU fans if ISU stopped them, or if their own lack of execution stopped them.

 

[ttuadvisor]

Let me clarify for you, since you seem a little slow. You haven't faced anyone, and if you are using the argument that you did last year, then you have to look at what they did last year. They got owned by anyone with a pulse. So No you haven't faced anyone and succeeded.

I'm confused. First it was Tech hasn't played anyone, now that I've clearly disproven that terrible theory the new shtick is that we haven't faced anyone and succeeded? I guess we're also ignoring the OU game last year and all the games senior like Cody Davis won in 2009, 2010, and 2011?

 

[Cycl1]

I'm confused. First it was Tech hasn't played anyone, now that I've clearly disproven that terrible theory the new shtick is that we haven't faced anyone and succeeded? I guess we're also ignoring the OU game last year and all the games senior like Cody Davis won in 2009, 2010, and 2011?

Yup you played good against an overrated OU team, and who else in the big 12 did you beat?

 

[ttuadvisor]

Yup you played good against an overrated OU team, and who else in the big 12 did you beat?

Are you asking about just last season? Or are you asking what Big 12 teams current Texas Tech players have beaten? Which would be every Big 12 team but UT, OSU and the two new Big 12 teams.

 

[peteypie]

I'm confused. First it was Tech hasn't played anyone, now that I've clearly disproven that terrible theory the new shtick is that we haven't faced anyone and succeeded? I guess we're also ignoring the OU game last year and all the games senior like Cody Davis won in 2009, 2010, and 2011?

It's not hard to confuse the mentally challenged, but I will try one more time to clarify.

You have not faced anyone with a pulse this year. So your defensive stats this year are greatly skewed. So you want to disprove this fact that you haven't faced anyone with a pulse by using last year and even two years prior as an example. If you are going to go back that far, then you have to see how they did. They did not do well. I know this is a hard concept to grab, but there are people that can help you with your condition.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

agree. The last 5 games they played in the big 12 were embaressing. They would have to improve a ton to be world beaters.

If you look at just their last 5 games it is even worse. The Raggies gave up an average of 51.2 points per game the last 5 games of the season last year. That is in Kansas territory from a year or so ago when the Jayhawks statistically had one of the worst defenses in NCAA history.

To put things in the proper perspective chew on this....

2011 Kansas defense allowed 43.67 points per game in the Big XII games.

2011 Texas Tech defense allowed 46 points per game in the Big XII games.

The Raggie defense allowed more points per conference game then the pathetic Kansas defense and these Tech fans want us all to believe that they have a dominant dominant defense that is worthy of being nationally ranked this season... These Raggie fans live in a dream world.

 

[peteypie]

If you look at just their last 5 games it is even worse. The Raggies gave up an average of 51.2 points per game the last 5 games of the season last year. That is in Kansas territory from a year or so ago when the Jayhawks statistically had one of the worst defenses in NCAA history.

To put things in the proper perspective chew on this....

2011 Kansas defense allowed 43.67 points per game in the Big XII games.

2011 Texas Tech defense allowed 46 points per game in the Big XII games.

The Raggie defense allowed more points per conference game then the pathetic Kansas defense and these Tech fans want us all to believe that they have a dominant dominant defense that is worthy of being nationally ranked this season... These Raggie fans live in a dream world.

Uh oh, we are going to confuse him again with facts.

 

[iacyguy]

One thing I notice a difference from last year is that our Defense is really hitting some people. And hitting them hard. And our D seems to have great hands in the terms of knocking the ball out of players attempting to catch the ball. Especially the linebackers. Klein did it a bunch during the iowa game. And I really don't think this texas tech team has enough of a threatening D to cause similar problems for iowa state. We will most likely do a better job dropping passes then they will cause drops anyway

 

[ttuadvisor]

So you want to disprove this fact that you haven't faced anyone with a pulse by using last year and even two years prior as an example. If you are going to go back that far, then you have to see how they did. They did not do well. I know this is a hard concept to grab, but there are people that can help you with your condition.

We could go back and forth on this logic, but I promise you don't want to compare records on any years before 2011. How bout we let the 2012 Texas Tech team play the 2012 Iowa State team and see whose better?

 

[Cyclonestate78]

I'm confused. First it was Tech hasn't played anyone, now that I've clearly disproven that terrible theory the new shtick is that we haven't faced anyone and succeeded? I guess we're also ignoring the OU game last year and all the games senior like Cody Davis won in 2009, 2010, and 2011?

Who has Tech played THIS YEAR that leads you to believe that these improved stats are anything but just paper stats????? We have seen their stats from last year and they stink. So now you want to go back in time 3 and 4 years ago to try and prove a point that you can't prove based against their most recent competition? Interesting.

So you would have no problem with a Minnesota Golden Gopher fan claiming that they are a national championship contender this season then? I only ask because they are 4-0 so far this season and well.... they did win National Championships in 1904, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, 1941, and 1960 which is a major factor in how they will do this season based on your logic.

Seth Doege has played tough competition right? How did he fair back in 2009 and 2010 when Tech was winning all of those Big XII games?

How about your top receiver Eric Ward?

How about Jace Amaro, Javon Bell, Jakeem Grant, Kenny Williams, Eric Stephens, etc..... ???????????????


Your arguments don't hold water. They are not based on fact. They are based on hopes and dreams... kind of like the Raggies 2011 season.

 

[Cycsk]

One thing I notice a difference from last year is that our Defense is really hitting some people. And hitting them hard. And our D seems to have great hands in the terms of knocking the ball out of players attempting to catch the ball. Especially the linebackers. Klein did it a bunch during the iowa game. And I really don't think this texas tech team has enough of a threatening D to cause similar problems for iowa state. We will most likely do a better job dropping passes then they will cause drops anyway

This is the main thing that I think will affect the outcome. Our DBs (not just LBs) are smarter and better coached than Tech's WRs (and TEs). Tech may have recruited some 4* receivers, but how many times this season have near completions been broken up at the last moment by a hit, tip, or strip? This isn't just us hitting hard. It is about really smart players being coached very well. Troy Douglas has taken these guys to another level. Generally, 4* WRs are great athletes, but not necessarily very coach-able. Talent alone won't be enough. This game is going to be won by our DBs keeping Tech from ever finding its stride, even if they make a few long passes. Then, all our offense has to do is grind it out and not make turnovers. It will probably be close at halftime, but the combination of our DBs messing up Tech's offensive rhythm and our offense controling the clock will be the factors.

Iowa State 44 - Tech 17.

 

[peteypie]

We could go back and forth on this logic, but I promise you don't want to compare records on any years before 2011. How bout we let the 2012 Texas Tech team play the 2012 Iowa State team and see whose better?

Novel idea. Will you leave this board until this happens? And who is comparing records now? You are welcome to come back after you lose to eat crow.

 

[ttuadvisor]

Who has Tech played THIS YEAR that leads you to believe that these improved stats are anything but just paper stats????? We have seen their stats from last year and they stink.

Are you seriously trying to compare Tech's stats this year to Tech's overall stats last year?

How about we at least compare apples to apples here:

Last season after 3 non-conference games(two were the exact same opponents) Tech was ranked 95th in defense.

This season after 3 non-conference games(two were the exact same opponents) Tech is ranked 1st in defense.

Sweep it under the rug if you want, but I've already heard an interview where Coach Rhoads has made comments about Tech's defense being very improved. I also saw where your RB Woody said that Tech's defense is really fast and flies all over the field this year.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Notice how the ISU's fans are bringing solid logic to the table and the Raggie trolls on this board are dropping like flies? They showed up with lots of bold talk and predictions of domination but as we continue digging into the facts in researching Tech their posts are becoming few and far between and the arguments are continually changing as they fail repeatedly to prove how much Tech has improved.

Tech fans came here looking for a pat on the back, some kind of confidence boost that ISU fans believe Tech is a vastly improved team this year. They came looking for that because they have unanswered questions, hopes, and more accurately.... DOUBTS about if Tech is any good this year. Well... sorry to kick you while you are down (in 9th place) Tech fans but I don't see any improvement. This is virtually the same team the Raggies put on the field last year and you can't polish a turd like that in 1 year.

 

[peteypie]

You brought last year into the argument when you claimed that you had the most returning starters and that they have played some hard competition.

You want to say how you are so much improved defensively over last year, but fail to see that ISU's stats on defense have improved just as much over the first 3 games as compared to last year.

Please go back under your bridge where you belong.

 

[peteypie]

Are you seriously trying to compare Tech's stats this year to Tech's overall stats last year?

How about we at least compare apples to apples here:

Last season after 3 non-conference games(two were the exact same opponents) Tech was ranked 95th in defense.

This season after 3 non-conference games(two were the exact same opponents) Tech is ranked 1st in defense.

Sweep it under the rug if you want, but I've already heard an interview where Coach Rhoads has made comments about Tech's defense being very improved. I also saw where your RB Woody said that Tech's defense is really fast and flies all over the field this year.

It's coach speak. What did you expect them to say, they looked good against some crappy competition?

Coaches don't say that stuff, and the players are also coached to be PC.

Back under the bridge with you now.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Are you seriously trying to compare Tech's stats this year to Tech's overall stats last year?

How about we at least compare apples to apples here:

Last season after 3 non-conference games(two were the exact same opponents) Tech was ranked 95th in defense.

This season after 3 non-conference games(two were the exact same opponents) Tech is ranked 1st in defense.

Sweep it under the rug if you want, but I've already heard an interview where Coach Rhoads has made comments about Tech's defense being very improved. I also saw where your RB Woody said that Tech's defense is really fast and flies all over the field this year.

Do you think coach Rhoads or any ISU player would speak to the media and say they think Tech stinks just like last year? Check out coach Rhoads comments related to any team that ISU plays. Here are a few good ones...

Star LB's quote prior to Western Illinois game... ISU was a 38.5 point favorite.
Quotable: Jake Knott on being a heavy favorite
“We try to look past any of that stuff. We go out and we know that whoever lines up on the other side of the ball is going to be athletic, strong and physical. We have to be the same and do it a little better than them to come out on top.”

Rhoads on the WIU game...

“We’re looking forward to the challenge,” Rhoads said


Rhoads stressed this game’s not merely a tune-up.
It’s another test that happens to come before a bye week and the Sept. 29 Big 12 home opener against Texas Tech.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Are you seriously trying to compare Tech's stats this year to Tech's overall stats last year?

How about we at least compare apples to apples here:

Last season after 3 non-conference games(two were the exact same opponents) Tech was ranked 95th in defense.

This season after 3 non-conference games(two were the exact same opponents) Tech is ranked 1st in defense.

Sweep it under the rug if you want, but I've already heard an interview where Coach Rhoads has made comments about Tech's defense being very improved. I also saw where your RB Woody said that Tech's defense is really fast and flies all over the field this year.

Again... you want to look at the stats from games when the Raggies played against some of the worst teams in the nation. You claim all of this experience on Tech's team winning against the Big XII schools and having the most returning starters etc.... Yet you don't want to look at how most of these Tech returning starters have faired in their most recent round of Big XII games. Why? Because they got their ***** handed to them on a weekly basis.