Storr Responds

OOTClone

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Some good discussion. From what I've read, it sounds like the "shove" was not a shove and the coaches acted fine during the meet. Sounds like there have been ongoing issues between Storr and the staff, attempted to get worked out but never resolved. I agree it's never good to see ISU involved in an accusation like this, we want our school and sports programs to have great reputations. On the other hand, I can understand how Dresser wants to defend his program if he is absolutely positive there was tampering. The only way these sports are cleaned up (especially MBB) is if people start getting held accountable for skirting rules.

The biggest thing that jumped out to me from Storr's statement was the whole Paulson/landlord thing. And now others have mentioned Cael, Varner, etc also own rentals in Ames.

If they charge market rate to each occupant, then I don't think any issues....
But if these owners are specifically renting only to wrestlers (or other athletes), AND giving a preferred rate (now, or in the past when Cael was here), then that is concerning to me as far as NCAA rules infractions goes. Nice recruiting tactic.

I know that wrestlers, and non wrestlers, have lived in the apartments owned by Cael (in the past -- not sure on current situations). I also know that majority of wrestlers have been the occupants of the Paulson's as well, but non-wrestlers sprinkled in. I think this would make the most sense since they would know their tenants and could get things taken care of much easier than with non-wrestlers. I don't see an issue with the rental properties, if, like you said, the prices were market value for rent, which to my understanding, they were.
 

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I know that wrestlers, and non wrestlers, have lived in the apartments owned by Cael (in the past -- not sure on current situations). I also know that majority of wrestlers have been the occupants of the Paulson's as well, but non-wrestlers sprinkled in. I think this would make the most sense since they would know their tenants and could get things taken care of much easier than with non-wrestlers. I don't see an issue with the rental properties, if, like you said, the prices were market value for rent, which to my understanding, they were.

Agree. My ISU skepticism alarms went off when I read that detail. What started out as a "Storr vs ISU coaches," "ISU vs UVA" thing, twists and turns into a bigger story of "ISU coaches give recruits/wrestlers preferred housing."
 

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Agree. My ISU skepticism alarms went off when I read that detail. What started out as a "Storr vs ISU coaches," "ISU vs UVA" thing, twists and turns into a bigger story of "ISU coaches give recruits/wrestlers preferred housing."

At this point, I think Storr came to the defense of the Paulson's more than he was trying to defend himself. Which, I hope he spoke to the Paulson's about this before he put it out for every one to see. I am not sure he was defending himself against anything, as the ISU staff hasn't said anything negative publicly about him. Best thing for ISU to do now is to not get caught in a back and forth with a former athlete and move on.
 

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Outsider POV:

Storr's account reads "Safe Space". On the "shove" issue, there is a difference between a football or wrestling coach giving a shove when trying to be emphatic vs doing it in anger.

What's more interesting if there were no hard feelings against Storr as Dresser said, why did they try to pull his schollie for this semester? Isn't that what usually happens when someone is kicked off vs transfer? There were hard feelings on both sides but Dresser, who lauds himself as a straight shooter, presented otherwise.

It does sound like he had one foot out and maybe the staff had guessed that he was going to transfer after the season. With his results last year and over the summer, I really thought Storr was going to be a stud but I think he rubbed the staff the wrong way very early on for whatever reasons. Because of this, Storr took a step down this season.

As for coaching, the caricature of the "Iowa" guy (Metcalf and others) is funny. Not all of our guys live in a cave and only come out to eat raw meat and wrestle. So many different personalities on our team (as any team) and coaches have to handle them the right way. A guy like Brent will learn but after watching Storr lose to WV, he probably had trouble containing himself because it would be tough to see a guy that talented not give his all. I have never seen Metcalf quit.

We had our share leave this past summer. Some because they would never start, others for philosophical reasons. It happens. But it becomes a bigger deal with a guy like Storr I guess.
 

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No, I didn't make it sound like that at all.

Stop conflating this to something it's not. There's not some weird honor in taking a shove from your coach. I don't get this attitude that if someone's a wrestler or a football player that they should be ok with someone putting their hands on them unnecessarily.

If the kid wasn't doing what he was told, that's reason enough to cut him. If he was engaged with another coach, cut him. It's pretty simple.

To use your logic, I guess the only way to coach some people is to either physically engage with them or use threatening tactics. Is that what you're saying?

Sounds like you are the one doing the conflating. Taking into account all the first hand witnesses who have commented, Metcaff didn't shove anybody. No one here is advocating for physical altercations and assault between coaches and players.

The facts are the coaches wanted buy in. Storr was witholding due to his relationship with the paulsons. The coaches required full buy in as they are rebuilding a program what was run down by the individuals that were that Storr was maintaining contact with. In the end the coaches had every reason and were justified to give Storr a choice to buy in, or get out. When you are rebuilding a program and one person is not bought in and refuses to buy in that is a cancer and it spreads. We hired these coaches to rebuild this program and win. Storr refused to get on the bus. I am sorry that this happened and I wish him the best but what he is saying now sheds a lot more light on his character than on the coaches.
 
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What's more interesting if there were no hard feelings against Storr as Dresser said, why did they try to pull his schollie for this semester? Isn't that what usually happens when someone is kicked off vs transfer? There were hard feelings on both sides but Dresser, who lauds himself as a straight shooter, presented otherwise.

I did not read anything about pulling a scholarship for this semester. I don't know if I would agree with that. However, I do agree with the notion of removing someone off the team that has no intention being on the team next year. If Storr was definitely going challenge for a title, then I would have preferred he stay on the team, but he is still building to his potential.

Storr and Parker seem to be a wash at this point. I would rather foot the bill (not me, but if it were me) for someone that will pay pay off for my program down the road, than someone who has full intentions of competing for a championship with another program.
 
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That's a completely different situation.

And yet, that action is way more physical than the alleged "shove" that has had everyone up in arms. And as has been described, the amount of physicality during practices is also far greater.
 

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Sounds like you are the one doing the conflating. Taking into account all the first hand witnesses who have commented, Metcaff didn't shove anybody. No one here is advocating for physical altercations and assault between coaches and players.

The facts are the coaches wanted buy in. Storr was witholding due to his relationship with the paulsons. The coaches required full buy in as they are rebuilding a program what was run down by the individuals that were that Storr was maintaining contact with. In the end the coaches had every reason and were justified to give Storr a choice to buy in, or get out. When you are rebuilding a program and one person is not bought in and refuses to buy in that is a cancer and it spreads. We hired these coaches to rebuild this program and win. Storr refused to get on the bus. I am sorry that this happened and I wish him the best but what he is saying now sheds a lot more light on his character than on the coaches.

idk, Storr said it happened and people acknowledge it happened. This is not me conflating anything. Sounds like it actually took place. Intent or malice or anything else I guess are perception.

I agree about this not being a good look for him.
 

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Dresser should have never made the tampering claim public on Takedown Radio. Let's assume it's 100% true and a blatant NCAA violation, go through the proper channels to report a possible violation, let the NCAA investigate and keep your mouth shut. Had he done that Kanen probably doesn't issue a statement on Twitter or talk to the DSM Register. "It just didn't work out" was all we really needed to hear at that time.

He's our guy so most of us are going to give him the benefit of the doubt but he's been a D1 Head Coach for 12 years now, he should have known better.
The only Issue I have with Coach keeping mum about the tampering violation, is that, as he said, NCAA tends to look the other way on wrestling. He needed to bring the violation to the public's attention in order to force the NCAA to take action for once.
 
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Store made the mistake asking for his release to Virginia. Rumor has it that his release is for Virginia only. Also sound like the Paulsens were actively recruiting him when they were at the Virginia Duals. Wouldn't be shocked to see Virginia part ways with the Paulsens and claim they had no knowledge of the tampering
 
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Talk about a momentum killer for the Cyclone Wrestling season. All the positives we seen are overshadowed by this story. Wish Kanen the best and hope he gets to wrestle at Virginia to maximize his talent. Hope 3 years from now we are looking back and saying man that was a great move having Ian Parker move up to 141. Story is way overblown with Twitter and other Social media but it is the world we live in, good luck to the boys this weekend.
 

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Adios Storr. Hello future. Staff has a vision for the program and Storr's mindset isn't it. Go get babied by the Paulson's. This is the most physically and mentally demanding sport in the world. You can also tell several people in this thread have never wrestled in their lives.

I hope the staff just leaves this alone the rest of the way with Storr. It would make me happy to see Storr put in his place because his "story" is comical if you knew all the background for the past few months...but it does nothing for the staff to do that. Let the little snowflake run to Virginia. Parker lives and breathes what the staff wants from their wrestlers. He is the better wrestler at 141 anyways. We will be better off in the long run.
 

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Talk about a momentum killer for the Cyclone Wrestling season. All the positives we seen are overshadowed by this story. Wish Kanen the best and hope he gets to wrestle at Virginia to maximize his talent. Hope 3 years from now we are looking back and saying man that was a great move having Ian Parker move up to 141. Story is way overblown with Twitter and other Social media but it is the world we live in, good luck to the boys this weekend.
This is a little bit of an overreaction IMO. We will be just fine. This will be old news soon.
 

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This is a little bit of an overreaction IMO. We will be just fine. This will be old news soon.

Whole point was it was not needed to detract from all the positives that have gone on this year. The overreaction is the whole story being this large. This story will have legs for weeks.
 

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Whole point was it was not needed to detract from all the positives that have gone on this year. The overreaction is the whole story being this large. This story will have legs for weeks.
If it does continue for weeks, it will be because the story will swing in favor of ISU and the coaches.. Going to be hard to deny some of the stuff that may come out about the Paulsons and Storr over the past couple months. If I didn't know more to the story I wouldn't have had such a strong worded post as I did above.
 

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If it does continue for weeks, it will be because the story will swing in favor of ISU and the coaches.. Going to be hard to deny some of the stuff that may come out about the Paulsons and Storr over the past couple months. If I didn't know more to the story I wouldn't have had such a strong worded post as I did above.

My single biggest pet peeve of the wrestling community, especially online, is people who want to make themselves look important by hinting about being in the know. Even if they are.
 
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Hahahaha that video of Metcalf is great. Not that he's a Cyclone I hope he pushes everyone wherever he goes. I thought he was a typical Iowa Douche when he wrestled, but now I love it haha
 
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Hahahaha that video of Metcalf is great. Not that he's a Cyclone I hope he pushes everyone wherever he goes. I thought he was a typical Iowa Douche when he wrestled, but now I love it haha

I burst out laughing when I watched the video at the office. In slow motion was hilarious.
 

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