Smoking ban at ISU

[Cy Heavy]

Not sure about the parking lot, but the more we can rid this world of smoking the better....plain and simple.

The stadium seating area has been non-smoking for years. I have personally turned in a handful of "kids" with no respect for the rules smoking in the stadium around me and I certainly don't feel bad about it and will do it again in a second.

Smoking is flat out disgusting and a nice day can quickly be ruined by having the unfortunate luck of sitting next to or near a smoker.

OK...fire away.

Rep for you

CloneIceRe: Smoking ban at ISU
Originally Posted by DBQ Clone

Here's the issue. Smelly loud babies and overweight people don't affect the health of the people around them. Neither do drunk people unless they get behind the wheel or start assaulting people.

Smoking affects not only the person doing it, but everyone around them. As an asthmatic, it is not my responsibility to leave the location if you decide to start smoking. It will be my responsibility to ask you to stop, now that the law is in place.

Your right to smoke ends where my lungs begin. That argument applies to a lot of things. Assault for instance. Your right to hit me ends where my face begins. Its the way the law works.

There is NO right to smoke in the Constitution.
​

Someone smoking outdoors does not affect your health unless you are basically standing on top of them.

If I can smell it, I'm breathing it

 

[akclone]

I will submit that the overconsumption of alcohol at football games is more of a public safety/health issue than 2nd hand smoke.

What about those kids that died on the interstate during the Iowa game last year after tailgating?

 

[DBQ Clone]

If I can smell it, I'm breathing it

My point exactly.

 

[DBQ Clone]

I will submit that the overconsumption of alcohol at football games is more of a public safety/health issue than 2nd hand smoke.

What about those kids that died on the interstate during the Iowa game last year after tailgating?

I would submit that they hurt no one but themselves and their families by getting behind the wheel while intoxicated. Which is illegal in the state of Iowa, by the way. Also the fact they could have killed anyone else on that highway is why that law is in place.

In and of itself, consumption of alcohol is only harmful to the person consuming it. If I drink a beer, the person's liver next to me is unaffected.

 

[garn91]

Here's the issue. Smelly loud babies and overweight people don't affect the health of the people around them. Neither do drunk people unless they get behind the wheel or start assaulting people.

Smoking affects not only the person doing it, but everyone around them. As an asthmatic, it is not my responsibility to leave the location if you decide to start smoking. It will be my responsibility to ask you to stop, now that the law is in place.

Your right to smoke ends where my lungs begin. That argument applies to a lot of things. Assault for instance. Your right to hit me ends where my face begins. Its the way the law works.

There is NO right to smoke in the Constitution.

here's a novice idea, move away from the person who is bothering you.

 

[DBQ Clone]

here's a novice idea, move away from the person who is bothering you.

Wrong answer.

I shouldn't have to. I have as much right to be there as the smoker. I'm not releasing smoke into the air.

 

[MaxPower57]

Okay you are NOT going to get cancer from secondhand smoke you breath in while outside

 

[ISUAlum05]

Wrong answer.

I shouldn't have to. I have as much right to be there as the smoker. I'm not releasing smoke into the air.

Well, gee, isn't it great that the people who make the rules finally realized that it's all about you?

 

[DBQ Clone]

Well, gee, isn't it great that the people who make the rules finally realized that it's all about you?

Wow. Such a well seasoned arguement.

No. For once, it isn't all about the smokers.

 

[Cy Hard]

View attachment 1888 :sad:

 

[HILLCYD]

View attachment 1888 :sad:

Viva la Revolucion! I must be able to smoke on campus!

I will start printing out the Marlboro Man shirts and berets.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]


[/FONT]

 

[Balls]

I am bothered by babies and children. I am annoyed by them and offended by their smell. I also don't care for overweight people, as they often smell too, especially after a long day of tailgating. I am sure all of you whose day is immediately ruined when you smell a puff of smoke will agree with me that no more children or overweight people should be allowed on any of these grounds as well.

Honestly, all I take from these threads is that I am glad I don't get my rocks off by complaining like some people apparently do. Some people simply live their lives looking for something to complain about, be offended by, or for something they can restrict others from doing.

I am sorry if I am not in tears at the thought of some of you occasionally smelling a cigarette at a tailgate! Nut up! Are you guys really such prissies that your day is ruined and the game ruined for you each time you smell someone's cigarette, OUTDOORS no less??

The joy some take by working to control what other people are doing is freakin disgusting to me. If some guy is smoking at a tailgate, who freakin cares! You really let this affect your day or bother you in some way? Why?

And please don't shoot back that some guy smoking by you oustide will give you lung cancer, if you think that is true there is no hope for you.

Agreed 100%. Great post. Although I don't smoke, I may just go buy a pack now and light up around people and let the smoke rise. I'm tired of people telling other people what they can and can not do. Society is turning into just a bunch of hypocritical whiners.

 

[ISUAlum05]

I agree, in general. Although, I can tell if someone lights up in the car in front of me at a stop light if the wind is in the right direction.

In a crowd, it's a little more problematic. Like an outdoor concert, or tailgating. If I'm at a tailgate, and the people next door light up a bunch of cigarettes or cigars, then it's a problem and they need to stop.

One smoker 50 feet away is not a problem and a total ban on campus seems unenforceable and unrealistic. But just outside an entrance or in close quarters is not.

It's not the odor or the cancer I object to. The sun can give you cancer and body odor is more offensive that smoke. Cigarette smoke triggers my athsma. Period. You have no argument against that. I'll be glad when I can go to a bar and not feel like I can't breathe or wake up coughing up slugs of phlegm. So secondhand smoke is a danger whether you believe it or not, no matter where it is.

I am highly allergic to seafood. So, because I am the only person in the world who matters, no one should be allowed to have seafood in any public place. I should avoid Red Lobster you say? Preposterous! I have just as much right to be at Red Lobster as seafood-eaters.

 

[drmwevr08]

I don't really care either way but thats a ********* argument and I think you know it. I have yet to see anyone force feeding a stranger seafood at red lobster or elsewhere.

 

[MaxPower57]

I can understand the athsma thing a little bit, but that would mainly be harmful in constricted indoor settings, not unrestricted outdoor ones.

 

[Balls]

Cell phones may be dangerous to our health. Time to ban those too... anyone against the right to smoke here should lead by example and toss their cell phones. Don't be hypocritical here, lead by example.

 

[ISUAlum05]

I don't really care either way but thats a ********* argument and I think you know it. I have yet to see anyone force feeding a stranger seafood at red lobster or elsewhere.

"Some individuals can be sensitive to the airborne fumes produced by cooking fish. These people can also have an allergic reaction triggered by simply walking through a fish market. Individuals who are this sensitive should be very careful about dining in restaurants or unfamiliar places. Sensitive individuals can also receive an allergic reaction from skin contact with fish and should avoid handling seafood."

Seafood Allergies

 

[cycloneworld]

If I can smell it, I'm breathing it

Like I said before, let's ban charcoal grills in the tailgating lots. That isn't good to breathe in either. Where is the outcry for that? Or let's not allow cars in the tailgating lots as the exhaust can cause cancer too.

 

[isukendall]

I agree that indoors, especially in bars, smoking is often undesirable. I used to bartend, and my clothes would smell horrible after a night of bartending. However, I also smoked. Regardless, I understood that I worked at a bar, and that was something that just went along with the territory, because people smoke at bars. Me complaining would be like a lifeguard complaining about sunburn.

I believe there's a market for bars as they now exist and smoke-free bars, as many people seem to have a problem with smoky bars. It's too bad business owners won't even have a choice in the matter, and this is happening all over the country and is only going to spread.

The open-air thing on campus is ridiculous, and the whole "if I can smell it I'm breathing and I'm getting cancer so nobody should be able to smoke anywhere" is a huge exaggeration, and honestly, whiny.

Think of things that you consume/breathe/walk by every day that are probably not good for you. Should we all:
-Stop driving and using all fossil fuels, because you can smell pollution
-Never walk in the grass barefoot, because of *gasp* chemicals

Obviously, smoking is not good for you. But does it really bother you THAT much?

 

[HILLCYD]

Cell phones may be dangerous to our health. Time to ban those too... anyone against the right to smoke here should lead by example and toss their cell phones. Don't be hypocritical here, lead by example.