Well then there really isn't argument to be made for the NBA to change the rule back to allowing HS to enter the draft then, is there?
Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?
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Well then there really isn't argument to be made for the NBA to change the rule back to allowing HS to enter the draft then, is there?
Huh? There are plenty of leagues for them to go play in, the NBA even provides them the opportunity to play basketball for a living in the NBDL. How exactly is this a violation of human rights?
I agree with you 100% about LeBron being the exception & most not being ready, but just because most aren't ready I don't think you should require a guy like LeBron to wait. That's why I say you go straight to the NBA from HS, or you wait three years before making the jump.
You're missing my point. There are success stories for guys that jumped right to the NBA and then there are guys that were busts that had no business jumping to the NBA. But that fact the NCAA and NBA can force guys to go to college (or overseas or just sit out a year or whatever) and miss out on $$$$ is an absolute joke.
No, you're missing the point. This has nothing to do with the NCCA, it's an NBA rule and serves a very good purpose. It's not a right for anyone to play in the NBA, they can set an age limit, like the NFL and many other sports leagues do. It's all about improving the NBA product and there really is no argument to be made that the one and done rule is not beneficial for the league.
Just playing devil's advocate, but was it so bad for LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, or Kevin Garnett to be in the league the year after they graduated from HS? I'd say the league benefitted almost immediately from those guys being allowed to go straight to the league. Obviously, for evey LeBron, Kobe, or KG there are 10 guys that failed, but I'd say the LeBrons make it worth it.
either should be able to jump right to NBA or if they HAVE to go to college stay at least 2. one and done is BOGUS
It would have been even better for the NBA if KG and Kobe had spent a year at Kentucky and Duke and were big name stars when they came into the league. It's not all about the player being able to compete at the NBA level. Durant and Carmelo both could have got minutes in the league right out of high school, but becoming huge stars after playing a year in college worked out much better for all involved. LeBron is a one in a million exception, but even with him if he goes to Akron and leads them to the elite eight or wins a title with OSU then goes pro, the NBA isn't being hurt at all in that scenario.
Also it's not really fair to lump Kobe and KG in with LeBron there. LeBron was miles ahead both of them as 18-19 year olds.
So, why don't we just force kids to go to college for all four years? They'd be way, way better than they are after just one year in college.
Just think how great the NBA would be if every player in the draft had four years under his belt at the college level.
Not really, the ROI to the NBA of a player going to college and being marketed to fans through college basketball is much greater in that first year than any other year. Think about it, Carmelo as a high schooler was unknown to most people who weren't diehard basketball fans, after one year at Syracuse he was a household name for most sports fans. He's already a known commodity coming into the league, him spending another year in college isn't going to benefit the NBA much. I would expect the NBA to push to make it two years in the next CBA but I don't think they would want to make it three years like the NFL requires.
I could declare for the NBA draft, it doesn't mean they are going to draft me and 'harm' their overall product.
I counter with Dwyane Wade. D-Wade was on nobody's radar until his senior year, & more specifically his run in the NCAA tournament that year.
In the end I just think it's stupid for the NBA to tell a kid he can't make a decision to go pro & make money.
What's wrong with telling them you're allowed to go from HS to the NBA, or you wait 2/3 years before entering the draft?
The NBA doesn't say this, you can play in the NBDL or Europe right out of high school or even earlier than that. You just can't play in the NBA. I don't see what's hard for people to understand about this. The NBA is just doing what is best for itself, and it's really hard to make an argument that the one and done rule hasn't benefited the NBA.
And Wade wasn't a one and done type, so I don't see how he factors into this?
I assume most of the people against the one and done rule, prefer watching college basketball to the NBA, in which case I can see your point. You'd rather have established college stars and miss seeing a few elite guys each year than seeing a bunch of players leave after one year. But I think most people who like the NBA more would much rather have the current rule than see players drafted right out of high school again.
I brought up Wade because you told me how players (Carmelo Anthony) are most marketable after their first year of college. If kids went to school for four years how many more D-Wades would there be?
Also, has forcing players to be one year removed from HS produced better players being drafted in the NBA? Seems to me that most of the one & done players end up getting drafted, doing very little in the league, & ultimately being sent to the D League.
The NBA has an image problem because many people perceive it as a league of immature thugs. Maybe the NBA could help this by having the players committed to college for awhile so they have a chance to grow up before they are all suddenly millionaire superstars.
You saying one & done players end up having longer NBA careers than players who make it to the NBA after 2, 3, or 4 years of college?
That's what I would expect. Look at the lottery the last few years, it's dominated by one and done guys. Three of the top five picks each of the last two years have been freshman, I would certainly expect guys drafted higher to, on average, have more succesful NBA careers than later picks.
Looking through the drafts since '06, there's no question that, on average, one and done guys have been much more successful than players who come out later.
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