Saquon Barkley wins Hornung Award

rholtgraves

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Trust me, EVERYONE knows you’re an idiot.

So I’ll step my game up. You going to NYC?

Idiot...original.
You have game?
Not anytime soon. Although, it is one of my favorite places and I don't get there as often as I would like.
 

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Hey, I didn't invent the trophy and whoever they want to give it to is their business. But if the criteria is most versatile and a player who plays multiple positions I think it clearly should have gone to Lanning.

It's one of several 2nd place Heisman awards Barkley will get. Good for him.

But Barkley didn't get 2nd in the Heisman voting. He didn't even get 3rd. Otherwise he would have gotten invited to the ceremony in NY.
 

rholtgraves

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Hey, I didn't invent the trophy and whoever they want to give it to is their business. But if the criteria is most versatile and a player who plays multiple positions I think it clearly should have gone to Lanning.

It's one of several 2nd place Heisman awards Barkley will get. Good for him.

I have a feeling Lanning was second, and I would imagine it was probably close. I guess I can just understand why Barkley got it.
 

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I think what they are looking at is the highest level way more the versatility. Barkley did have some impressive stats, but really, what he did was nothing unique or unusual at all. There are probably 100 RBs in the country that ran the ball, caught passes and returned kicks. I guess it is all in how the voters wanted to interpret the rules. Again, winning a couple more games would have probably helped him.
 

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I have a feeling Lanning was second, and I would imagine it was probably close. I guess I can just understand why Barkley got it.

Why is that? I know he caught some passes and returned some kicks on top of being a pretty good running back, but how is that truly unique?
 
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Stanford just rushed for another td
 

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Surely Barkley’s versatility wasn’t anything out of the ordinary. But in all honesty, Joel Lanning simply wasn’t that good. I get that he was a former QB, so to even start at the P5 level for a solid team in his first year at the position is unique. But he threw a couple passes and carried the ball ~30 times (and not particularly effectively, BTW) and he was a below average LB.

I can understand the committee awarding the trophy to a player that was versatile and is really, really good at football, as opposed to a more versatile player who is not nearly as good.
 

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Surely Barkley’s versatility wasn’t anything out of the ordinary. But in all honesty, Joel Lanning simply wasn’t that good. I get that he was a former QB, so to even start at the P5 level for a solid team in his first year at the position is unique. But he threw a couple passes and carried the ball ~30 times (and not particularly effectively, BTW) and he was a below average LB.

I can understand the committee awarding the trophy to a player that was versatile and is really, really good at football, as opposed to a more versatile player who is not nearly as good.

Lanning was second team all conference LB. Derp
 

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Why is that? I know he caught some passes and returned some kicks on top of being a pretty good running back, but how is that truly unique?
Because he is the best RB in the country and one of the best kick returners in the country. He is also probably the best pass catching RB. He won the RB of the year and the returner of the year in the Big Ten. He also passed it half as many times as Lanning did and had the same amount of passing TDs.
 
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AltHawk

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Lanning was second team all conference LB. Derp

I don’t care if he was first team all-American. 2nd most missed tackles of any LB in the Big XII, and the worst coverage grade of any LB in the Big XII. I wouldn’t expect much different from a first-year starter, but he wasn’t very good.
 

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Because he is the best RB in the country and one of the best kick returners in the country. He is also probably the best pass catching RB. He won the RB of the year and the returner of the year in the Big Ten. He also passed it half as many times as Lanning did and had the same amount of passing TDs.

No he's not. Love and Montgomery are both better than Barkley
 

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I don’t care if he was first team all-American. 2nd most missed tackles of any LB in the Big XII, and the worst coverage grade of any LB in the Big XII. I wouldn’t expect much different from a first-year starter, but he wasn’t very good.

Where did you see this?
 

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Because he is the best RB in the country and one of the best kick returners in the country. He is also probably the best pass catching RB. He won the RB of the year and the returner of the year in the Big Ten. He also passed it half as many times as Lanning did and had the same amount of passing TDs.
If he was the best RB and best kick returner and best pass catching RB why was a different running back selected as a Heisman finalist and Barkley wasn't?
 

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