At the old stadium, the students rushed the field BEFORE the game and made a tunnel for the players to run through. If there was a win (which was rare) any opportunity to get back on the field was taken.
Rushing after K-State, Seriously????
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Seriously, who cares. Let people have a little fun. I think there should a celebration on the field/court after every victory.
Oh, but don't lift people onto your shoulders unless the victory falls under some pretty strict guildlines. That would be ridiculous.
Oh, but don't lift people onto your shoulders unless the victory falls under some pretty strict guildlines. That would be ridiculous.
I posted this last year as well... but think it needs another look.
ESPN - Forde Minutes: Storm stories - Columnist
TO STORM OR NOT TO STORM
Within the last 10 days, those crazy college kids from Michigan, Iowa, Indiana, Georgetown, St. John's and Tennessee have stormed the basketball court to celebrate big victories -- and for the chance to act like lunatics on TV. ("Look, Martha, there's our boy! Yes, the shirtless one with his face and torso painted, howling like a savage and jumping on that other child's back. ... Is that a whiskey flask in his back pocket?")
After watching all these giddy group gropes, it's high time to publish the Forde Minutes Court-Storming Protocol Guide. Students are advised to read the following rules and to act accordingly the next time their team agitates them to the edge of hoops ecstasy:
• The Old Money Principle (2): Look up at the ceiling of your gym and count the banners. If your school has won three or more national titles in its history, you shall not rush the floor at any time. Schools affected: UCLA (11 titles), Kentucky (seven), Indiana (five), North Carolina (four), Duke (three).
Your program has won big games before. Act like it.
The Old Money Principle clearly puts the Indiana student body in violation of The Forde Minutes' protocol. Especially when the vanquished team, Illinois, owns zero national titles of its own. How terribly tacky.
The Illini did not even qualify for a Minutes Protocol Exception (3), which states that if your august basketball program has hit the skids to a dispiriting degree (Indiana has missed the last two NCAA Tournaments), a storming is allowable under certain conditions:
Condition A (4): The opponent is ranked No. 1 and/or undefeated at least halfway through the season (14 or more games). Illinois was merely ranked fifth in the ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll and already had a loss on the season.
Condition B (5): Your august program defeats a top-five team on a suitably miraculous shot (25 feet or farther) at the buzzer, spurring spontaneous joy that overrides better impulses. (The Indiana-Illinois game went down to the wire, but it wasn't won at the buzzer on a prayer.)
Condition C (6): You are so intoxicated that you cannot remember the opponent's ranking, or how many titles your school has won. But be forewarned that The Minutes will not pay your bail if you're the lone trespasser on the court and wind up in cuffs.
Ashley Judd
Is this enough to stop a Cats fan from offing himself?
Condition D (7): You see college hoops fan Ashley Judd (8) sitting at the other end of the court, and you know that the shortest distance to her is a straight line.
• The Upper-Middle Class Principle (8): If your school has won multiple national titles, you are generally discouraged from storming the court unless you have defeated one of the above blue bloods, and only at the last second. Schools affected: Kansas, Louisville, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Michigan State, Connecticut, North Carolina State.
However, stormings are allowable under the following conditions:
Ancient History Exception (9): If your national titles predate Texas Western's, you are free to storm the court for any dramatic win over a top-five team. Schools affected: Oklahoma State, San Francisco, Cincinnati.
Semi-Ancient History Exception (10): If your national titles predate the 3-point shot, you are free to storm the court for any dramatic win over a No. 1-ranked team. Schools affected: Louisville and North Carolina State; Kansas and Michigan State halfway (one title before the three, one after).
Current power Connecticut (two titles in the last seven years) is discouraged from rushing the court under any but the most extraordinary circumstances, such as beating the No. 1 team on an eyes-closed, left-handed hook shot from half court.
• The Middle Class Principle (11): If your program plays in a major conference, has some basketball heritage and takes itself fairly seriously, court stormings should be reserved for: upsetting a top five team; knocking off an unbeaten league rival of particular dislike; ending a period of extreme and elongated futility against an arch rival; clinching a conference championship.
Under this principle, Iowa is hereby indicted for its floor rush Tuesday night after beating No. 11 Indiana. (In fact, it's flatly inexcusable on any level, other than the boredom that January in Iowa City can precipitate.) Michigan is granted clemency under the elongated-futility-against-an-arch-rival clause. Georgetown, St. John's and Tennessee were all cleared for liftoff last Saturday.
Daniel Horton
AP Photo/Paul Sancya
Daniel Horton can celebrate; even the UM fans are exempt.
(Although The Minutes fully understands the Rocky Top rush, the SEC did not. It fined the Volunteers $5,000 for failing to keep the students off the floor, a violation of the league's sportsmanship policy. The Minutes fails to see the clear and present danger. This isn't football, where the fans mount heavy metal objects and send them crashing down upon the mob below. First time they tear down a basket stanchion, a fine will be in order. Not until then.)
• The Lower Class Principle (12): If your team plays in a mid-major or low-major league and manages to coax (or trick) a BCS-conference school into visiting and you win the game, a storming is allowed. Exceptions: Memphis, Gonzaga or any other school whose program is demonstrably larger than its conference profile. Also: beating a certifiably horrible BCS-conference school (Baylor, Arizona State, Purdue, South Florida or anyone with an RPI worse than 150) is not worth the effort.
The Bottom Feeder Principle (13): If you're North Dakota State, still on the D-I taxi squad, and you shock Wisconsin? Go crazy. Even if it's a road game. Break into the home gym and storm that sucker.
• The Morehead State Principle (14): The Eagles are 0-15 against NCAA competition. Any 8-0 run is justifiable incentive to rush the floor.
ESPN - Forde Minutes: Storm stories - Columnist
TO STORM OR NOT TO STORM
Within the last 10 days, those crazy college kids from Michigan, Iowa, Indiana, Georgetown, St. John's and Tennessee have stormed the basketball court to celebrate big victories -- and for the chance to act like lunatics on TV. ("Look, Martha, there's our boy! Yes, the shirtless one with his face and torso painted, howling like a savage and jumping on that other child's back. ... Is that a whiskey flask in his back pocket?")
After watching all these giddy group gropes, it's high time to publish the Forde Minutes Court-Storming Protocol Guide. Students are advised to read the following rules and to act accordingly the next time their team agitates them to the edge of hoops ecstasy:
• The Old Money Principle (2): Look up at the ceiling of your gym and count the banners. If your school has won three or more national titles in its history, you shall not rush the floor at any time. Schools affected: UCLA (11 titles), Kentucky (seven), Indiana (five), North Carolina (four), Duke (three).
Your program has won big games before. Act like it.
The Old Money Principle clearly puts the Indiana student body in violation of The Forde Minutes' protocol. Especially when the vanquished team, Illinois, owns zero national titles of its own. How terribly tacky.
The Illini did not even qualify for a Minutes Protocol Exception (3), which states that if your august basketball program has hit the skids to a dispiriting degree (Indiana has missed the last two NCAA Tournaments), a storming is allowable under certain conditions:
Condition A (4): The opponent is ranked No. 1 and/or undefeated at least halfway through the season (14 or more games). Illinois was merely ranked fifth in the ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll and already had a loss on the season.
Condition B (5): Your august program defeats a top-five team on a suitably miraculous shot (25 feet or farther) at the buzzer, spurring spontaneous joy that overrides better impulses. (The Indiana-Illinois game went down to the wire, but it wasn't won at the buzzer on a prayer.)
Condition C (6): You are so intoxicated that you cannot remember the opponent's ranking, or how many titles your school has won. But be forewarned that The Minutes will not pay your bail if you're the lone trespasser on the court and wind up in cuffs.
Ashley Judd
Is this enough to stop a Cats fan from offing himself?
Condition D (7): You see college hoops fan Ashley Judd (8) sitting at the other end of the court, and you know that the shortest distance to her is a straight line.
• The Upper-Middle Class Principle (8): If your school has won multiple national titles, you are generally discouraged from storming the court unless you have defeated one of the above blue bloods, and only at the last second. Schools affected: Kansas, Louisville, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Michigan State, Connecticut, North Carolina State.
However, stormings are allowable under the following conditions:
Ancient History Exception (9): If your national titles predate Texas Western's, you are free to storm the court for any dramatic win over a top-five team. Schools affected: Oklahoma State, San Francisco, Cincinnati.
Semi-Ancient History Exception (10): If your national titles predate the 3-point shot, you are free to storm the court for any dramatic win over a No. 1-ranked team. Schools affected: Louisville and North Carolina State; Kansas and Michigan State halfway (one title before the three, one after).
Current power Connecticut (two titles in the last seven years) is discouraged from rushing the court under any but the most extraordinary circumstances, such as beating the No. 1 team on an eyes-closed, left-handed hook shot from half court.
• The Middle Class Principle (11): If your program plays in a major conference, has some basketball heritage and takes itself fairly seriously, court stormings should be reserved for: upsetting a top five team; knocking off an unbeaten league rival of particular dislike; ending a period of extreme and elongated futility against an arch rival; clinching a conference championship.
Under this principle, Iowa is hereby indicted for its floor rush Tuesday night after beating No. 11 Indiana. (In fact, it's flatly inexcusable on any level, other than the boredom that January in Iowa City can precipitate.) Michigan is granted clemency under the elongated-futility-against-an-arch-rival clause. Georgetown, St. John's and Tennessee were all cleared for liftoff last Saturday.
Daniel Horton
AP Photo/Paul Sancya
Daniel Horton can celebrate; even the UM fans are exempt.
(Although The Minutes fully understands the Rocky Top rush, the SEC did not. It fined the Volunteers $5,000 for failing to keep the students off the floor, a violation of the league's sportsmanship policy. The Minutes fails to see the clear and present danger. This isn't football, where the fans mount heavy metal objects and send them crashing down upon the mob below. First time they tear down a basket stanchion, a fine will be in order. Not until then.)
• The Lower Class Principle (12): If your team plays in a mid-major or low-major league and manages to coax (or trick) a BCS-conference school into visiting and you win the game, a storming is allowed. Exceptions: Memphis, Gonzaga or any other school whose program is demonstrably larger than its conference profile. Also: beating a certifiably horrible BCS-conference school (Baylor, Arizona State, Purdue, South Florida or anyone with an RPI worse than 150) is not worth the effort.
The Bottom Feeder Principle (13): If you're North Dakota State, still on the D-I taxi squad, and you shock Wisconsin? Go crazy. Even if it's a road game. Break into the home gym and storm that sucker.
• The Morehead State Principle (14): The Eagles are 0-15 against NCAA competition. Any 8-0 run is justifiable incentive to rush the floor.
I can't believe I just read 3 pages of people complaining about rushing the field. Boo-frickin-Yoooouu. I could care less if every fan in the stands rushes the field after every game we win. You know why........BECAUSE WE WON THE DAMN GAME!!!!!! Personally I could give a rat's *** what anybody else thinks of us hitting the field for anything less then a top 2 team or winning the BCS. What do you think the team thinks when they have excited fans coming out to shake their hand or pat them on the back. It's gonna make them play even harder next week where, if we win, I hope we all rush the field and stay there till the next morning........
What are we, a bunch of blue hairs. By all means, the next time we win, and it isn't the next world champion. Lets just all sit in our seats, take out our DeKalb thermos's and sip coffee until the team finally walks off the field. They will feel the love a lot better then if we do something so childish as go out and congratulate our team.
Come on people....
OK I'm done ranting.....:mask:
What are we, a bunch of blue hairs. By all means, the next time we win, and it isn't the next world champion. Lets just all sit in our seats, take out our DeKalb thermos's and sip coffee until the team finally walks off the field. They will feel the love a lot better then if we do something so childish as go out and congratulate our team.
Come on people....
OK I'm done ranting.....:mask:
I posted this in another thread but here goes:
1) Rushing was not a good idea in my eyes, cstrunk and I actually discussed it for a bit and each of us decided against it. But it is what it is.
2) It wasn't just the students actually, I saw some people from non-student sections making their way onto the field, and I'm sure they amounted to more than 15% of the contingent on the field, there as a pretty good group of them.
3) They were all on their way off the field after about 3 minutes when they found out there actually wasn't a party on the field because nobody else went out with them.
But it happened, but truthfully it really wasn't much of a rush.
1) Rushing was not a good idea in my eyes, cstrunk and I actually discussed it for a bit and each of us decided against it. But it is what it is.
2) It wasn't just the students actually, I saw some people from non-student sections making their way onto the field, and I'm sure they amounted to more than 15% of the contingent on the field, there as a pretty good group of them.
3) They were all on their way off the field after about 3 minutes when they found out there actually wasn't a party on the field because nobody else went out with them.
But it happened, but truthfully it really wasn't much of a rush.
I'm with the people here that think you only rush when you win a big game. Big games are beating highly ranked opponents (like Texas and Oklahoma) and always when you beat a big rival like Iowa. I'm sorry but K-State yesterday was not "rush-worthy" in my opinion. How many of you were making fun of Iowa for rushing against MSU last week? This was the same kind of game IMO and it looks stupid that our program has gotten so low that we thought this was a big enough win to rush. I think it says more in these kinds of games when you stay in the stands as it makes it look more like you expected to win games like that.
You put way too much into rushing the field. Number one, even if it is a big deal so what we got our first conference win in a horrible season = justified. Number two it is a great way to show unity with the team...beat someone and the students go down and congratulate the players...it really isn't that big of deal. No one tried to take down the goalpost or anything. Next you'll be saying "boy, those kids play their music so loud these days."
Uh, the only game we've won before with Chizik is against Iowa. Can't we celebrate a win instead of hanging our heads and feeling sorry for ourselves for having a bad year.
"It was just like (beating) Iowa," cornerback Chris Singleton said. "Fans are on the field. They're patting you on the back. They're telling you 'Thank you.' "
Why if the players don't mind it do some of you who have not sweated an ounce for the win seem to have such a problem with it.
Why if the players don't mind it do some of you who have not sweated an ounce for the win seem to have such a problem with it.
I think more than it being just a win, it was Gene's first conference and it was our first conference win. I don't understand why some of you can't enjoy it, rather than bi@#$ about it. I understand they way some of you think about it only being done for winning a big game, thats cool cause everyone has their own beliefs. But I wish that the rest would enjoy the win and let others celebrate with the team that brought us a victory without them getting heckled about it.
i agree totally with gordy05 and nrollen about how this looks ridiculous. also to the people who say we were "forced", i saw about 50 or so scattered people that started the rush. after them more people started but it was in no way like the iowa game where the entire student section rushed. if you were "forced" you could have just stepped off to the side and waited for the team to shake their hands when they came off the field. that would have been much better than embarrassing everyone else. i also think over half the people in the front 10 rows or so have barely any idea what is going on. against texas i was unfortunate enough to witness this. we were down big obviously at the end of the game and instead of people in these front 10 rows watching the game or leaving like others did, they started the dumbest chants in the history of the college athletics. lets see some i heard were "random chanting"-clap clap clap clap clap and "mashed potatoes" clap clap clap clap clap. knights of columbus what the hell is that. i bet our team felt so good hearing those chants after getting smoked by texas. some players were probably thinking hey ill look into the stands to see our good supporters hanging around and still watching. wow did they get quite the treat. the worst chants, people leaving, and students with their backs to the game is what they saw instead. i think if we want to help our teams morale after a bad loss we should clap when they leave the field to let them know they played hard but couldnt get the job done. its over and done with now so i wont say anymore but i hope our fans can do a little better next time.
I don't know if people should've rushed and I really don't care, do whatever you want to do. But I do think this is a big win. We come in 1-8, having showed no ability to win games, we play well yes, but haven't shown a winning attitude. Players finally come up big, make big plays when we need them. This was a big win for Chizik and the players, without this I think we lose out the rest of the year. I think we have a good chance to beat CU next week now, momentum is a hell of a drug.
You say that the team played hard against Texas? What game were you watching? We left the team on the bus, so why should we clap support for a team that didn't bother to play?
so even they didnt play hard you can still clap to say we are still here supporting you. "hey guys well clap to support you and maybe next game you will come to play" is quite a bit better than "mashed potates", leaving in the third quarter, and standing with backs to the game.
Who cares whether they rush or not. It may be 2012 or not before we win a huge game. Who knowa? Just have fun. Suspect most of rushees thought we would go 1-11 until we won. I see most people disapprove. Yet the event is an entertainment event. No wonder Prince had his guys march off like a marching tank formation at halftime. He was worried about the field rushers. This win was bigger than the Iowa Hawkeye game - it was in confernce. Our new superbowl.
I find it hard to beleive the K-State game is bigger than the Iowa game. Maybe in a year when we are competing for a North title and a shot at the Big 12. Hopefully the day will come soon, but as for now K-State is not a big game.
We have to win confeence games to recruit. Winning the first Big 12 game is bigger than any Iowa or UNI game. It may feel better to win instate and brag, but the conference is alway the bigger deal. Beating Colorado will be bigger than beating Iowa. Beating Kansas will be bigger than beating UNI.
