Returning players next year

Tlyon

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He used everything up.
Not true, he could use the COVID year potentially.
2018- True Freshman
2019- True Sophomore
2020- True Junior
2021- COVID Junior

Now I don’t think he will come back but the door is open.
 

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Dekkers, Brock/Silas, Noel/Shaw/Scates/Wilson (sounds like he is coming back), Dean at TE. Not an awful skill corps on offense.

Lotta OL returning.

Defensive front seven looks shaky for sure. McDonald's decision looms large here.

Isheem, King, Tampa, Purchase in the secondary are gonna be pretty good.

I expect the staff to go hard into the portal for something like an impact WR and/or TE, as well as DL/LBs.
 

CyLyte2

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Zone blocking is like a a kickoff return wedge. You blocked a group (generally diagonally) and the back reads a lame and cuts to it. Gap blocking is taking assignments because the ball is to hit a Generally specific spot and you have to force your will on the Dlinemen man’s move them where you want to create a hole. Gap blocking generally allows lineman to catch the Dline at an angle and use their energy against themselves. You need a back who is a good reader and cutter for that.
I'll tell you two things 1)Zone blocking is about the steps you take on the snap. No one tries to block someone "diagonally". And it is absolutely nothing like a kickoff wedge. 2) what you are referring to as "gap blocking" is man blocking and there are almost no P5 teams left that schematically try to "move" or "block" someone anymore. Incidentally, Iowa is one of those few remaining teams that do but they also run a lot of zone scheme.

If you run a man scheme you need a downhill runner.
 

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Not exactly sure.
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Not true, he could use the COVID year potentially.
2018- True Freshman
2019- True Sophomore
2020- True Junior
2021- COVID Junior

Now I don’t think he will come back but the door is open.
I stand corrected. I thought he used his Covid year this year.
 
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Not exactly sure.
I'll tell you two things 1)Zone blocking is about the steps you take on the snap. No one tries to block someone "diagonally". And it is absolutely nothing like a kickoff wedge. 2) what you are referring to as "gap blocking" is man blocking and there are almost no P5 teams left that schematically try to "move" or "block" someone anymore. Incidentally, Iowa is one of those few remaining teams that do but they also run a lot of zone scheme.

If you run a man scheme you need a downhill runner.
Okay….guess jay and I have the wrong lingo.
 

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That’s a shame. I don’t why Milton’s production never returned after his injury (Sophmore year I believe). With the loss of Hutchinson the WR room could really use him next year but best of luck to the young man.
Pure speculation.... Max Duggan transfers here to try his luck at receiver. He has the size and speed.
 

stewart092284

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Depends if we switch back to zone or stick with gap blocking. We went back and forth this year.
Which is one of the reasons IMO the offensive line struggled. It seems minor but the differences between the two are enough to screw things up timing wise and step wise and when everything happens in a split second on the front line - that stuff matters
 
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Not exactly sure.
Which is one of the reasons IMO the offensive line struggled. It seems minor but the differences between the two are enough to screw things up timing wise and step wise and when everything happens in a split second on the front line - that stuff matters
Agree. Zone blocking is good when you have linemen that are not dominating which is what we have. Good for your tackle weak teams which we seem like a full line of guards.
 

stewart092284

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Agree. Zone blocking is good when you have linemen that are not dominating which is what we have. Good for your tackle weak teams which we seem like a full line of guards.
Which I guess is one question I'd have for the staff... why tinker with it? Like maybe next year I guess but why mess with something now?
 

stewart092284

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Maybe they figured with all the experience, let the older guys deal with the struggles and have the new system ready to go for the youngsters moving forward so they are only learning the one thing? IDK... I mean I guess I can understand that thought process, thinking your veterans could handle it and also building for the future at the same time ... its just IDK. Curious.
 

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Agree. Zone blocking is good when you have linemen that are not dominating which is what we have. Good for your tackle weak teams which we seem like a full line of guards.
Zone blocking has nothing to do with “dominating” lineman or not “dominating lineman”. It’s a technique to create double teams at the point of attack while still allowing lineman to get to the linebackers during the play. Football has become a numbers game. Trying to create a man advantage at the snap.
 
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stewart092284

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Zone blocking has nothing to do with “dominating” lineman or not “dominating lineman”. It’s a technique to create double teams at the point of attack while still allowing lineman to get to the linebackers during the play. Football has become a numbers game. Trying to create a man advantage at the snap.
yes and no. yes it helps with double teams and what not... yes, it's also designed to help offensive linemen who are not physically able to dominate their opponent.

its like a cut block. on the one hand, its designed to get a defensive linemen's hands down or get them on the ground and slow down their charge up field.

at the same time... its designed to help an offensive linemen who can't block him one on one. they have multiple purposes.
 

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yes and no. yes it helps with double teams and what not... yes, it's also designed to help offensive linemen who are not physically able to dominate their opponent.

its like a cut block. on the one hand, its designed to get a defensive linemen's hands down or get them on the ground and slow down their charge up field.

at the same time... its designed to help an offensive linemen who can't block him one on one. they have multiple purposes.
It’s nothing like a cut block. Do you know what a lineman does if the play is inside zone?