Report: T.J. Otzelberger headed for Iowa State
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It wasn’t in regards to what he would get paid, it was the full package, for what his assistants would get paid
The University of Iowa State Men's Basketball Head Coach:
It’s going to be a sell job for sure. What TJ really has going for him is guys like Hunter and Foster can reach out to Georges, Monte, Diante, Deonte, Matt T, etc and have them vouch for TJ.
That is the smart way to go about it. Set up a zoom call with several of them, but make sure Matt is primary since he is a Wisconsin guy and specifically came because of TJ.
I suppose it could have been taken that way but my response was to a message that stated there were conspiracy theories. The fact that I said Occam's razor kind of implies it was an assumption.
To compound this, after Fred left we followed it up with a traditional process to hire someone who checked a lot of boxes (HC experience, winning record, good recruiter, style of play), and it blew up in our faces. Which would encourage Pollard to go back to his method of identifying and zeroing in on his candidate.
CycloneErik
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We love to trap ourselves with those ideas, as though a winning coach couldn't do the same thing when hired.
Couple things wrong with this post. TJ escorted a couple of players to the transfer portal in his first year (who are now doing well at other schools), and even pushed Amauri Hardy, now at Oregon, out the door last year (who he actually really needed this year, since Jenkins turned out to not be who we thought he would be). The ones that left when Menzies was fired were JTT of Baylor, and Ntambwe who left TT before the year started, after sitting out a year. Both good players.
Also, Menzies didn't clean house when he got to UNLV, there was no one left, players went pro, or left because Rice was fired. He had a DII Juco player as point guard (who knew there was a D2 Juco, lol) and got embarrassed badly by Duke. He had his best class coming in when he was fired, but the Rebel boosters wanted him out, and the AD didn't want to wait in case he had a great year.
Can you imagine what thsi thread would be like if we weren't really good at football? Man.
I mean it’s super impressive! He has an uncanny ability to network.
Exactly. Except that search was done in June. Doing a search in March/April is much different.
Things could get dicey in a few years for Pollard. If Campbell is still here, there's no way you can do anything with Pollard, but TJ is fully on him. Does Wendy really let him make another basketball hire?
I will keep saying this but the “new” posters that show up with an intimate knowledge of all of TJs decisions do nothing to help his cause among those that are skeptical. This happened last time as well. I’m not going to believe obvious friends and family over results.
Let him prove me wrong on his own.
I’m not sure why so many people have anti-pollard feelings. He’s done a great job of leading this department from the beginning. Has he missed on hires? Probably but CSP was not his choice 6 years ago. That falls 100% on Leath.
jamie has done more for Iowa State than anyone could’ve. He created the culture. He’s a straight shooter with morals and ethics. If he says in the video not to listen to rumors or believe anything until the department announces or confirms than I believe that.
If it’s TJ, I’m on board. If not, I’m on board. I guaranty JP knows more about this business than all of us chuckleheads combined.
jamie has done more for Iowa State than anyone could’ve. He created the culture. He’s a straight shooter with morals and ethics. If he says in the video not to listen to rumors or believe anything until the department announces or confirms than I believe that.
If it’s TJ, I’m on board. If not, I’m on board. I guaranty JP knows more about this business than all of us chuckleheads combined.
Already sporting the cardinal and black... I presume gold panties then?...
Agree. That argument to support TJ as the new coach is a paper tiger. TJ can't talk to current ISU players until he's hired. He's been gone long enough that he doesn't have a close relationship with any current ISU players. As far as his current UNLV players/recruits- hitting them up at this point is pretty sleezy. And we know what Jamie said about integrity.
Hunter's HS coach was quoted yesterday by saying they would hang tight and see who the new coach will be. Sure he still might come to ISU, but we all know how crazy spring recruiting season can be with NBA departures and Transfers. I hope ISU can keep Hunter, but he will have choices like Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, etc. etc.
