Report: T.J. Otzelberger headed for Iowa State

[jsb]

So could Caleb Grill transfer back and be immediately eligible even though he's already used one waiver? 40% serious question

I think so. And I'm sure he would.

 

[Hayes30]

With that sentiment, Chris said on the podcast that he was aware of what TJs staff could have been six years ago at ISU and it was very impressive.

Join the premium board and you would have seen it a month ago.

 

[cyatheart]

I'll say this - I have nothing in particular against TJ but he's not a proven winner yet. If this report is true, then it entirely wreaks of nepotism. Him knowing ISU counts for something, but it shouldn't count against the other candidates. This isn't how things should actually work in the real life, and as someone who has interviewed and hired hundreds of people in the last handful of years - it's hard. It's hard not to be biased like this but you have to do it.

Imagine being someone like Craig Smith, who has gone 74-23 in 3 years at Utah State, and you don't get hired because a guy you've beaten "knows the school better."

I will want to know what's going on, but if JP just rushed for this - not only is it not good but I have lost a lot of respect for him as a human being for basically making a nepotism play.

what are you talking about? Tj knows the right people, that’s EXACTLY how it works in the real world

 

[DSM4Cy]

How do you do worse than zero conference wins? You can’t.

You could have zero wins and not be competitive in any games...

 

[CySmurf]

This whole thread reminds me of when Fred was first announced as the new head coach...lots of pessimism. Plenty of crow to eat if TJ actually works out.

 

[CentexCyclone]

How do you do worse than zero conference wins? You can’t.

Next year is going to be rough no matter what. I’d rather it be rough with young, Big 12 caliber players taking their lumps and setting the stage for a competitive 2022-23 team.

 

[CyLyte2]

I'll say this - I have nothing in particular against TJ but he's not a proven winner yet. If this report is true, then it entirely wreaks of nepotism. Him knowing ISU counts for something, but it shouldn't count against the other candidates. This isn't how things should actually work in the real life, and as someone who has interviewed and hired hundreds of people in the last handful of years - it's hard. It's hard not to be biased like this but you have to do it.

Imagine being someone like Craig Smith, who has gone 74-23 in 3 years at Utah State, and you don't get hired because a guy you've beaten "knows the school better."

I will want to know what's going on, but if JP just rushed for this - not only is it not good but I have lost a lot of respect for him as a human being for basically making a nepotism play.

Do you know what nepotism is? Did you know TJs career record against Smith is over .500.

 

[jsb]

If he waited a week and still hired tj, it would look like a bunch of people turned the job down, so he had to do it now

True, but I think I'd feel better about it.

 

[IlliniCy]

Ever heard of a blue checkmark?

 

[Rabbuk]

If he waited a week and still hired tj, it would look like a bunch of people turned the job down, so he had to do it now

No. No other like position in the country would hand a multi million dollar a year job to someone without a search and interview process of multiple candidates. Assistant middle school principal jobs are more rigorously considered if this timeline is true

 

[ISUAgronomist]

So...couldn't CW just text him and ask to get a confirmation...then tell his employee (you) to confirm? ;-)

They already know the answer either way....think they want to be on Jamie's bad side?

 

[jsb]

How many of those names would he be able to get now though?

Who knows? But to be fair, he does have some more head coaching experience now. He probably doesn't need that great staff.

 

[jsb]

No. No other like position in the country would hand a multi million dollar a year job to someone without a search and interview process of multiple candidates. Assistant middle school principal jobs are more rigorously considered if this timeline is true

Jamie has been on TJ for 15 years.

 

[marothisu]

Here's the thing, if he waited just a week, we could at least believe that we were trying to get a successful coach.

Exactly - again if this is true and he rushed it then he's even dumber with the PR/optics than I ever imagined. He could have his coach lined up for a 3 weeks being a done deal, and he could still wait for 2 weeks to announce it so people, like this board and other media, don't say "wtf?"

 

[Tornado man]

That process is generally needed to determine that ability as measured against other options. Particularly when with a non-basketball guy like JP, proximity bias, and a weak resume candidate that just had a bad year.

This is about JP imo. It could workout, we’ll likely know by late April whether the haste was justified, but often the process is more indicative of the job done than the outcome. An option trader can get lucky with a naked position, but that doesn’t mean you want them running your shop.

I assumed the "process" would have included coaching candidates of color? Especially in this day and age?

 

[mynameisjonas]

Its all good, some of you must be new to twitter.

 

[CyLyte2]

No. No other like position in the country would hand a multi million dollar a year job to someone without a search and interview process of multiple candidates. Assistant middle school principal jobs are more rigorously considered if this timeline is true

How many would have handed it to a guy who NEVER coached a game.

 

[cycloneworld]

I don't know much about the basketball. But its hard to envision that hiring a guy you passed over before, and who has had middling results since then, is a "slam dunk." Its also hard for a casual fan to get very excited about this.

This may work out. It may not. But there is nothing about this hire that screams “slam dunk”.

That said, I’m fine with it. Knows ISU super well, low major HC experience, mid-major HC experience, proven recruiter.

 

[jsb]

Exactly - again if this is true and he rushed it then he's even dumber with the PR/optics than I ever imagined. He could have his coach lined up for a 3 weeks being a done deal, and he could still wait for 2 weeks to announce it so people, like this board and other media, don't say "wtf?"

Everyone says that he'll get a jump on transfers. But I don't think many good ones will transfer before tournament teams are finished.

 

[marothisu]

Do you know what nepotism is? Did you know TJs career record against Smith is over .500.

No, I have no idea what nepotism is - I just used it randomly in a few posts without knowing what it means. Are you serious right now? It's favoring friends or family which could take the form of something like offering them a job but not exclusive only to getting someone a job. It's not only for family by the way, even though the actual root of the word deals with it.