Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

CloneJD

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Call Dennis Dodds and tell him then, because that's exactly what he's reported.
Dodd hasn’t wanted to write the big12 obituary column for decades. Unless another power conference grabs more than texas and ou the big12 isn’t dissolving.
 

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Dodd hasn’t wanted to write the big12 obituary column for decades. Unless another power conference grabs more than texas and ou the big12 isn’t dissolving.

So he lied in reporting what he was told?
 

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boy do folks from the existing paradigm get squirmy went you start talking exiting the system and forming a brand new system not compatible with the old one, competition is bad for business
 

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Call Dennis Dodds and tell him then, because that's exactly what he's reported.

Didn't he say the Big 12 is worth 25-50% of what it was before? That range is $9M to $18M per school. The American makes $7M per school. The middle of the range he reported is literally double the value of the American (and less than half of the ACC of Pac-12, to be sure, but still double the AAC).
 

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So he lied in reporting what he was told?
He was speculating the big12 leftovers would scatter. There is no reason to believe they will without others leaving.

Ffs i know this is mostly about football but ku’s basketball rights are significant.
 

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Didn't he say the Big 12 is worth 25-50% of what it was before? That range is $9M to $18M per school. The American makes $7M per school. The middle of the range he reported is literally double the value of the American (and less than half of the ACC of Pac-12, to be sure, but still double the AAC).

Fair enough. Let's split the difference - lets say it's 13.5 million. Yep, it's about double the AAC payments. It's also 30 million less than what we're getting now, so the effects on the department would be the same - we'd basically lose every coaching staff, some programs would be cut, probably a lot of people lose their jobs, and overall interest in ISU athletics decreases gradually at first then by a long way.
 

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He was speculating the big12 leftovers would scatter. There is no reason to believe they will without others leaving.

Ffs i know this is mostly about football but ku’s basketball rights are significant.

He was doing no such thing. He was reporting what he was told by industry insiders on what the value of the Big 12 media rights package would be without OU and UT. There was no speculation there. Now he could be wrong and the people he spoke to could be wrong but he's not just throwing stuff against the wall.
 
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He was doing no such thing. He was reporting what he was told by industry insiders on what the value of the Big 12 media rights package would be without OU and UT. There was no speculation there. Now he could be wrong and the people he spoke to could be wrong but he's not just throwing stuff against the wall.
No where in that article does he say those rights are in line withwith the aac. That is editorializing by you.
 

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Things should have never gotten this out of control. College Football needed a governing body, otherwise the tv networks were going to corrupt the whole thing. The Longhorn Network did the old Big 12 in. Thanks ESPN. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that Duke, Vandy, Wake Forrest, Boston College, Northwestern, Washington State, Oregon State etc... are power and we are not. None of those schools have the passion or fan following that we do. Most can't even get 30 thousand to a game. Something is very wrong is schools like Iowa State, Okie State, KSU are not P5.
 

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Fair enough. Let's split the difference - lets say it's 13.5 million. Yep, it's about double the AAC payments. It's also 30 million less than what we're getting now, so the effects on the department would be the same - we'd basically lose every coaching staff, some programs would be cut, probably a lot of people lose their jobs, and overall interest in ISU athletics decreases gradually at first then by a long way.

You are definitely right about the impact. Capital improvements would stop right away. Campbell and staff are gone. Anybody else who is expensive and not named Otzelberger is probably gone (Fennelly retires and is replaced by someone making 25% of his salary, Dresser and Johnson-Lynch are out, etc.). I imagine we try to keep Otz at least since top G5 programs often invest in hoops, since they can compete and win at that sport and keep up on the arms race there, unlike football. And we would be cutting some sports. All of these are basically guarantees in any scenario that doesn't end up with us in the B1G, ACC, or Pac-12.
 

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Things should have never gotten this out of control. College Football needed a governing body, otherwise the tv networks were going to corrupt the whole thing.

That was supposed to be the NCAA. But they were both gutless, toothless, and also sucking on the NCAA tournament TV rights tit so they were in no position to be dictating anything to the conferences.
 

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Things should have never gotten this out of control. College Football needed a governing body, otherwise the tv networks were going to corrupt the whole thing. The Longhorn Network did the old Big 12 in. Thanks ESPN. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that Duke, Vandy, Wake Forrest, Boston College, Northwestern, Washington State, Oregon State etc... are power and we are not. None of those schools have the passion or fan following that we do. Most can't even get 30 thousand to a game. Something is very wrong is schools like Iowa State, Okie State, KSU are not P5.
We will be in a “major” conference after all this. Idk what it’ll look like, who will be in it or what it’ll be called, but we will not be in a smaller conference of some sort.