Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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I don’t think the 300mill number is accurate. I think that’s just what they are paying for the slot CBS had.

BIG is getting 7 billion over 7 years, and SEC is getting 7 billion over ten years. It has not been announced yet what the additions of Texas and Oklahoma will do to that number, as it was finalized before the news of them switching conferences was leaked.
It is accurate as it stands. It’s not just for the CBS window, which was only $55M per year. They have then entire SEC rights.
 

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Not exactly sure.
But that’s not what we are talking about. I’m talking about what each network is paying. Compared to what Fox, CBS and NBC are paying the Big Ten, ESPN absolutely fleeced the SEC with the deal they got and for three years longer.
All that matters is the per school payout. Of course fox is paying more, they have a higher slug of the big ten games.
 

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I don’t think the 300mill number is accurate. I think that’s just what they are paying for the slot CBS had.

BIG is getting 7 billion over 7 years, and SEC is getting 7 billion over ten years. It has not been announced yet what the additions of Texas and Oklahoma will do to that number, as it was finalized before the news of them switching conferences was leaked.
300 is strictly what CBS had, you are correct.
 

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It is accurate as it stands. It’s not just for the CBS window, which was only $55M per year. They have then entire SEC rights.
The ESPN deal of $300 mill/year is a huge increase for the SEC over their previous CBS deal, but that's just because they got fleeced by the previous CBS deal, which was $55 mill/year for the entire SEC.
 
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Texas Legislature couldn't keep UT in the Big 12. This is CA politicians being a bunch of busy try hards..
This is the Regents that control UCLA. Not that I think it will be any different in the end. But they do have more control than the politicians. With that I still think this is mostly just theater. If they push the issue too much I think the Big 10 will just replace UCLA with someone else, possibly better.
 
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All that matters is the per school payout. Of course fox is paying more, they have a higher slug of the big ten games.
To the schools yes. What I was talking about is ESPN getting in on Notre Dame’s home games because they have the cash to spend if they want to. NBC just paid a ton to the Big Ten for a handful of games. Let’s see how much they are willing to pay to Notre Dame next time around before it doesn’t make sense. Disney and ABC have nothing wrapped up in the SEC and ACC deals by comparison so they have money to toss around if they want to.
 

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I do really wish all of these behind the scenes conversations had to be made public (yes I know that’s not a thing) because it would be fascinating and eye opening to all of us what REALLY goes on behind closed doors.

There will be books on this imo. Perhaps titled the Death of the NCAA

Hopefully the first couple chapters are dedicated to the buildup starting in 90s
 
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I don’t think the 300mill number is accurate. I think that’s just what they are paying for the slot CBS had.

The deal for $300M/yr is separate from the existing SEC/ESPN contract, but both agreements expire at the same time (2034).
 

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No, but the regents could. Cal and UCLA are governed by the same regents. It'd be a big power play by the regents, but they could tell the UCLA administration to pull from the Big 10 unless Cal were invited too.
The other thing they could do is force them to share income from their respective conferences. The Regents can set how they utilize their income, so they can say ok all income goes into one pot and is equally divided between schools, in order for those schools to maintain equal footing regardless of what conference they join, and what pay that conference has.
 

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Did you read that article? It says ESPN is paying 300m per year for the slot CBS was paying 55m a year for.
I could be wrong and if I am I stand corrected but I thought the current ESPN/SEC deal ends in 2023, which is when the new deal starts.
 

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Did you read that article? It says ESPN is paying 300m per year for the slot CBS was paying 55m a year for.
Yeah. ESPN is paying the SEC $3 bill for exclusive rights for 10 years... so $300 mill/year. Has nothing to do with "the slot CBS" had, ESPN now has exclusive rights and will be airing the sh*t out of SEC football. At a huge discount. You said the SEC is getting $7 bill for 10 years. Not even close.
 

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Not going to matter if ESPN offers way more than NBC can afford.
Disney isn't going to back up the truck for ND. They have SEC games at 2:30 on ABC. ESPN can't match ABC (SEC) or CBS (Big10) reach at that time slot.

NBC or Fox are the Irish's best chance to maximize viewership and $ at the mid-afternoon spot.

Plus it could be NBC/CBS combo creates increased scheduling flexibility between Big10 & ND for the 2:30 & 7 times.
 

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I agree but Disney and ESPN have the money if they want to do it and put it on ABC. They just lost out on the Big Ten and are paying peanuts to the SEC now compared to what the Big Ten just got from Fox and co. so they could throw a fun wrench into things by going after that Notre Dame home slate. This is a battle between these networks, so don’t ever put it past any of them to try and F over the mother network.

It’s not just more money- ND wants to have a good relationship with SEC (ESPN). As long as SEC/ESPN rather have an independent ND than a BIG ND, ND will have a spot at the table and playoff access. Becoming an ESPN asset (for more money) makes certain ND is included as an equal to P2s.

If ND isn’t in this BIG deal, then Warren missteps or gave up on ND when adding NBC and excluding ESPN. Now ND gets BIG affiliation via network if staying on NBC, while also motivating espn to keep ND independent. ESPN would go LHN type subsidy if NBC falls short of ND’s needed revenue. The path to remaining independent was strengthened
 
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I could be wrong and if I am I stand corrected but I thought the current ESPN/SEC deal ends in 2023, which is when the new deal starts.

The existing SEC/ESPN deal was made in 2013 and runs through 2034. That was the one that included the creation of SEC Network.

The $300M/yr deal that starts 2024 is for what CBS had before. That was the only portion of the SEC rights that remained available. That deal also runs through 2034.
 
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Yeah. ESPN is paying the SEC $3 bill for exclusive rights for 10 years... so $300 mill/year. Has nothing to do with "the slot CBS" had, ESPN now has exclusive rights and will be airing the sh*t out of SEC football. At a huge discount. You said the SEC is getting $7 bill for 10 years. Not even close.

They are getting 7 billion for 10 years from all media rights. They are getting 3 billion for 10 years from the slot previously held by CBS. That is based on 14 teams, and not with the addition of Oklahoma and Texas.
 

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The existing SEC/ESPN deal was made in 2013 and runs through 2034. That was the one that included the creation of SEC Network.

The $300M/yr deal that starts 2024 is for what CBS had before. That was the only portion of the SEC rights that remained available. That deal also runs through 2034.
ESPN owns 100% of the SEC Network. Another bizarre negotiation by SEC bigwigs.
 
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They are getting 7 billion for 10 years from all media rights. They are getting 3 billion for 10 years from the slot previously held by CBS. That is based on 14 teams, and not with the addition of Oklahoma and Texas.
Lol, no they're not. Nobody else can broadcast SEC games from 2024 to 2034. ESPN owns them all, for $3 bill. So where exactly do you think the extra $4 bill is coming from?
 

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