Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Not a chance. I love Iowa State but Iowa State will never be in the SEC.

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What needs to happen is for the College Football money bubble to pop. The P2 conferences thinking they can just pile elite teams together and the money will only grow longterm. The problem is you are alienating the other half of the old P5 teams who will not watch P2 games if it is no longer the same stage. Those mega contracts peak and start to go the other direction, especially if cord cutting and streaming becomes the new standard since you can no longer force non-CFB fans into cable and satellite subscriptions for ESPN, FS1, Big Ten Network, SEC Network. Not to mention you put all these elite teams in the same 2 conferences mathematically many of the "elite" teams have to lose. You are going to get some unhappy teams when they can't win (looking at Texas, UCLA, etc).

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College Football is better as a whole if all the FBS teams are on the same stage. Blow the whole thing up, hire a commissioner over all of FBS, get rid of conferences, create regional divisions, have protected cross division games, and rotate the rest of the games with other divisions. You get EVERYONE buying subscriptions (not just fans of the 40 P2 team and the few above that just happen to have that streaming service) which creates an enormous money pool to share, and return to the regionalized divisions that just like conferences were 15+ years ago and created the best rivalries in football. The top teams from each division go to a playoff and the rest go to bowls or season is over.

I am definitely oversimplifying it and this is unrealistic but it is better than what the current trajectory of College Football is going. Even Kirk Ferentz said he is concerned about the future of college football despite Iowa being on the fortunate side of the landscape. Just my thoughts on a Saturday evening. Ready for ISU football to be here despite the crap outlook of my favorite sport.

Like I stated earlier, I really think the money aspect of this when it's all said and done, will not be as big as an advantage for these schools as many of them think.
Most schools, including ISU has been pumping money into their football program for going on 10 years now, so while the B10 and SEC schools can pay off the debt faster, they are not going to tear those facilities down and rebuild them.
Unless they can find a way to start paying the kids NIL money from this fund, which then make them employees, which they do not want. Or increase scholarships from 85 to 100 or more, the impact will not be as great as these schools hope it will be.

The nonrevenue sports will be the ones that benefit the most, along with the coaches and AD's of the major sports of football and basketball. ISU will be fine if they can maintain its current level and continue to gradually increase it.

 

[CyJack13]

Like I stated earlier, I really think the money aspect of this when it's all said and done, will not be as big as an advantage for these schools as many of them think.
Most schools, including ISU has been pumping money into their football program for going on 10 years now, so while the B10 and SEC schools can pay off the debt faster, they are not going to tear those facilities down and rebuild them.
Unless they can find a way to start paying the kids NIL money from this fund, which then make them employees, which they do not want. Or increase scholarships from 85 to 100 or more, the impact will not be as great as these schools hope it will be.

The nonrevenue sports will be the ones that benefit the most, along with the coaches and AD's of the major sports of football and basketball. ISU will be fine if they can maintain its current level and continue to gradually increase it.

Lol thinking non revenue sports will benefit more.

 

[Cloneon]

2 hour games that would be a dream, the worst thing about attending FB live is the freaking commercials after every freaking 1st down, punt etc..... No game continuity at all with all the commercials.

LOL. I agree, 3 hours or more which solidifies the argument that much more. I also agree with lack of continuity. I suspect we'll start to get packaging much like Amazon Prime is doing (free, free with ads, rental, rental with ads, purchase, purchase with ads and much more in-game advertising)

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Like I stated earlier, I really think the money aspect of this when it's all said and done, will not be as big as an advantage for these schools as many of them think.
Most schools, including ISU has been pumping money into their football program for going on 10 years now, so while the B10 and SEC schools can pay off the debt faster, they are not going to tear those facilities down and rebuild them.
Unless they can find a way to start paying the kids NIL money from this fund, which then make them employees, which they do not want. Or increase scholarships from 85 to 100 or more, the impact will not be as great as these schools hope it will be.

The nonrevenue sports will be the ones that benefit the most, along with the coaches and AD's of the major sports of football and basketball. ISU will be fine if they can maintain its current level and continue to gradually increase it.

Totally agree with this take. The main advantage the money gives you will be jacking up coaching salaries not just for the HC but also the coordinators. Might also have a trickle down effect with recruiting staff and NIL staff but that’s kinda the limit on what the money is going to get outside of nicer travel.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

Like I stated earlier, I really think the money aspect of this when it's all said and done, will not be as big as an advantage for these schools as many of them think.
Most schools, including ISU has been pumping money into their football program for going on 10 years now, so while the B10 and SEC schools can pay off the debt faster, they are not going to tear those facilities down and rebuild them.
Unless they can find a way to start paying the kids NIL money from this fund, which then make them employees, which they do not want. Or increase scholarships from 85 to 100 or more, the impact will not be as great as these schools hope it will be.

The nonrevenue sports will be the ones that benefit the most, along with the coaches and AD's of the major sports of football and basketball. ISU will be fine if they can maintain its current level and continue to gradually increase it.

Agree. If they go to 100 then there will be more transfers because u need playing time to get better. The open transfer policy is a check mate against the schools/conferences that would try this approach.

 

[tzjung]

Man, I would love for ISU to be in the SEC West or similar division with Missouri, Arkansas, Vandy, OSU, OU, Texas, LSU, A&M and the Mississippi schools. The last 3-4 years we’d have been battling OU, A&M and LSU for the top spot. There are some heavyweights there for sure but Matt Campbell would keep us upper half, or at least middle of the pack. In basketball TJ might put us at the top. Not terrible geography either. Similar to the current Big 12.

Bama will move to the East when Texas and OU join.

They've already been discussing 4 pods.

 

[scyclonekid]

There needs to be news soon. I'm not sure I can survive another stupid post thinking we're going to the SEC

Sec, sec, sec lol just kidding. I’m sure parts are moving it’s just being tight lipped.

 

[StPaulCyclone]

Auburn is the more likely move. Bama-UGA is the matchup they want in the title game every year.

Missouri belongs in the West and would reunite them with OU and UT to a lesser extent. A rivalry could start with Arkansas.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Lol thinking non revenue sports will benefit more.

Truthfully how much more money can a school like EIU pump into their football program than what they currently already have. Say they are making 40 to 50 million more 5 years from now. They have already redone the North endzone, they built new locker rooms, weight room and nutrient center as part of that project.
They could throw a few million towards Freerents, but he is already making $7 million, the O and D coordinators are over $900K a year, I suppose they can give them a million dollar raise, boost the other staff salaries, but doing all of that its only 5 to 10 million. Build a new downtown bb facility maybe, but other than that, the money will have to be spent on the nonrevenue sports.
The fanbase and IRS are going to start asking questions if a nonprofit has 150 million squirreled away for a rainy down 10 years from now. So, they are going to have to spend it, and the place that it could do the most good is the nonrevenue sports.

 

[Cyforce]

Missouri belongs in the West and would reunite them with OU and UT to a lesser extent. A rivalry could start with Arkansas.

Missouri doesn't matter and will play wherever they're told.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Auburn is the more likely move. Bama-UGA is the matchup they want in the title game every year.

They will probably just do away with divisions altogether.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Missouri belongs in the West and would reunite them with OU and UT to a lesser extent. A rivalry could start with Arkansas.

East and West are just names. The current divisions make sense geographically if you do a diagonal split from NW to SE. Mizzou currently borders two other SEC states (Tennessee and Kentucky) with three schools (add Vandy), but would only border one SEC State (Arkansas) with one school (the Razorbacks), and they play them as their permanent cross-over rival. Doesn't matter anyway, as the SEC is headed to quads or no dovisions in the future. At least, they should!

 

[Paddythefatty]

Like I stated earlier, I really think the money aspect of this when it's all said and done, will not be as big as an advantage for these schools as many of them think.
Most schools, including ISU has been pumping money into their football program for going on 10 years now, so while the B10 and SEC schools can pay off the debt faster, they are not going to tear those facilities down and rebuild them.
Unless they can find a way to start paying the kids NIL money from this fund, which then make them employees, which they do not want. Or increase scholarships from 85 to 100 or more, the impact will not be as great as these schools hope it will be.

The nonrevenue sports will be the ones that benefit the most, along with the coaches and AD's of the major sports of football and basketball. ISU will be fine if they can maintain its current level and continue to gradually increase it.

The employees/CBA is where all of this is heading. If they were just gonna be strapped with cash they cant allocate to revenue sports then what is the point? Oklahoma & USC would be better off staying on top of conferences that give em a path to the CFP if that was the case.

The shotcallers know it is inevitable & they will be sharing 48% of revenue with players & that’s why they don’t care if they can only win 7 games in the SEC. Idk maybe it isn’t inevitable but it’s to their advantage & they believe NFL-lite will be good for college football. Either way it would be huge blow for conferences making half the revenue which would explain why major schools are consolidatin.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Bama will move to the East when Texas and OU join.

Maybe? Maybe not? Either way, that 800 pound gorrilla will be there somewhere! I was just joking a bit about ISU challening in the SEC West annually under Campbell and not mentioning the Tide. Let's Go State!

 

[timinatoria]

 

[BCClone]

Truthfully how much more money can a school like EIU pump into their football program than what they currently already have. Say they are making 40 to 50 million more 5 years from now. They have already redone the North endzone, they built new locker rooms, weight room and nutrient center as part of that project.
They could throw a few million towards Freerents, but he is already making $7 million, the O and D coordinators are over $900K a year, I suppose they can give them a million dollar raise, boost the other staff salaries, but doing all of that its only 5 to 10 million. Build a new downtown bb facility maybe, but other than that, the money will have to be spent on the nonrevenue sports.
The fanbase and IRS are going to start asking questions if a nonprofit has 150 million squirreled away for a rainy down 10 years from now. So, they are going to have to spend it, and the place that it could do the most good is the nonrevenue sports.

They can bring back the sports they just cut due to their quarter of a billion dollar debt they are carrying.

 

[CoKane]

They will probably just do away with divisions altogether.

For whatever reason I feel like they and the Big 10 won't unless the playoff expands. They can already grt away with one division sucking most years so why change it

 

[20eyes]

Trev Alberts molests collies.

 

[20eyes]

For whatever reason I feel like they and the Big 10 won't unless the playoff expands. They can already grt away with one division sucking most years so why change it

Agreed. The Conference Championship games are a revenue generator and the P2 won't have to worry about representation in the Playoff. Also, the B1G and SEC fancy themselves super conferences already so why not have a CCG? The assumption being that the winner will sail to the NCG.

 

[Kinch]

Totally agree with this take. The main advantage the money gives you will be jacking up coaching salaries not just for the HC but also the coordinators. Might also have a trickle down effect with recruiting staff and NIL staff but that’s kinda the limit on what the money is going to get outside of nicer travel.

I would say most of the new money goes to pay down debt, pay the exorbitant buyouts and jacking up salaries. NIL might see some.