Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Found this to be an interesting listen. Gives a chance to hear the outside perspective straight from someone with reporting actually tied to one of the four discussed instead of having to filter through a bunch of Twitter ********:
I would not be surprised if the Cali BoR attempts to bloack UCLA and make this a big political and legal drama issue. If that happens, would that delay the Big 12 taking 4-6 teams from the P12?
How many times has this been posted now? The 10th person should get a prize or something.
The only out UCLA has in their pocket is to say hey, we are running big deficits, so do you (state of California) want to dump money into us or would you like us to get that money from the Big Ten instead.
I think the Cal flap about UCLA leaving is more of the Governor wanting Cal to partner with Stanford to the B1G instead of Washington. Oregon not getting in. Ohio State is not going to give Oregon a seat with Nike money to pay for athletes in the B1G. Take 4 Corners. Then take Washington and Oregon when they fall. You’ll have 18 teams. Maybe eventually get 6 ACC maximum. You have a fun league of 24 teams. With some very good teams able to beat anyone.
That's a good point. My biz partner is a Man U guy, and I VERY casually follow the Premier league. The mayhem there is about what we are looking at here. It's just tough, change is hard.
in addition to the corner 4, i would really like the Big 12 to make a play for SDSU and 1 of UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, Boise St to limit the remaining Pac teams options.
Stanford can do what they want. There was some speculation that if UCLA is restricted in some way the Big Ten might take Stanford in their place.
I don't buy that.
The Oregon-OSU game was the 2nd highest rated OSU game during the regular season, only behind Michigan-OSU which was #1 overall in the country. People (likely mostly Big fans) watch top PAC schools vs top BIG schools as much as the watch top BIG vs top BIG. Clemson-UGa one of the top-10. All these top brands outside the P2 get huge valuation bumps if in the P2, but particularly top PAC schools in the BIG
Also, think of the UCLA addition. With the BIG adding USC, the UCLA addition does not get much benefits from BTN, so it is mostly about valuation from ratings. UCLA is not pulling better than Oregon. If Thompson is correct, which he likely is not, UCLA is somewhere around Oregon's 30 million. It would be a huge risk to assume they'd do something they have not done recently- get good ratings. Yet they got in- so either the BIG is willing to let schools in that bring down revenue, or USC is worth $130+ million. USC is nice, but I don't see USC being that much higher than others.
What is true is that the schools that in their current conferences are already at valuations high enough may be limited. Those were the easy calls to make- if a school is in the money in a non-P2, they are even more in the money in the P2.
Memphis has a higher valuation than Miss St if they were to switch conferences. That is not a statement about P2s losing schools, it is a statement that the P2s are a little like the NFL in which just being a franchise is a huge part of the valuation (all of it in the NFL case). Adding the Clemson's, UWs etc to the P2s is somewhat analogous to the NFL expanding
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Let them live by adding those. Only Pac or ACC adds at this point.
What?!?
So you want to take from the G5, lowering the perception of the conference, so that the G5 can replace those schools with PAC schools? Tulane??
Just take the best of the PAC we can get, and let the rest become G5.
Good god, the PAC schools would abort coming to the Big 12 as soon as they heard of this insanity
Ugh, no. What is with people so eager to promote G5 schools? That is the absolute worst thing we could do for ISU. If we get the 4 the Pac is dead, no need to kill it further. Promoting those 4 only lowers our per school payouts. If you want more schools, you wait for the ACC to implode. This whole thing is about maximizing revenue to minimize the gap between us and the SEC and B1G. SDSU, UNLV, or Tulane etc simply grow that gap which hurts our programs now and our conference stability going forward.
Only way you would consider that is if they took an unequal share.
Either way its a bad idea. The big 12 already has a perception problem with the media and casual fans, adding even more G5 schools does not help that perception at all.
The only G5s to add further needs to occur after the P3 has been made, and there are G5 schools threatening to play their way to being an issue. Say, like what we say Cincy do last year happening multiple times, or that a conference like MWC is becoming too quality in nature. Take the top 1 to knock it down
But even then, if that P3 is at 20-24 schools, the whole equalizer is the auto/access to CFP, so the less mouths to feed the more the equalizer is maxed out.
