Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Its early in the season yet. People are still mowing their lawns, going to family events, fishing. Wait until the cold wind blows and people go back to their TV sets. Then the numbers will come up.
Of course they did. They were a standalone broadcast OTA. The numbers for that one and Rutgers-Northwestern were going to be huge no matter who played.
Says a lot about access mattering..
Yeah a lot of these viewership numbers need to be normalized somehow based off day and time of game, what channel it's on, and the number of concurrent games on. There should be enough data out there to come up with an equation on avg expected viewers based on a few important factors and then you can see how the game performs vs avg expectations or something. I'd definitely dig into that if I had easy access to the data
Yes, but isn’t that part of the better payouts? They are willing to play on different days and times to get those ratings.
Not if Disney vs. Charter/Spectrum dispute isn’t settled soon.
Prison lockups.Almost 3 million people voluntarily tuned in to watch Northwestern and Rutgers?
KidSilverhair
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Wait, wait, hold on just a minute … you’re telling me college football fans will tune in to games just because they’re the only thing on at the time? Why, I’ve been told by MegaConferences and GiantSportsMedia that sports requires BIG BRANDS and TOP-RATED MATCHUPS and we must sacrifice the Oregon States and Boston Colleges and Iowa States of the world on the altar of MICHIGAN-OHIO STATE abd ALABAMA-LSU.
I was told nobody wanted to watch football games that didn’t include the Mighty Top 32. Have I been lied to? Have the MegaConferences and GiantSportsMedis screwed up college football for the wrong reasons?
The gambling aspect drives some viewership, as does fantasy sports.
I mean when NBC was broadcasting, baseball in the 70's and 80's they could put on the Expos and Padres and draw viewers. Cuz that was the only game on, and probably the only baseball game much of the country got to see on TV.
If a sport does not oversaturate the airwaves, people will watch. But if NBC were to put up Red Sox vs Yankees against Expos/Padres, it would not even be a contest.
If the OSU's, BC's or ISU's are the only game on across the country, you will certainly have more viewers.
But unless you play week 0 or choose to play Sunday or Monday night of labor day weekend, you are not going to have exclusivity.
OSU vs San Jose plays on Saturday, they get 320,000 viewers
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Disagree on Colorado/TCU. Noon game with two non-brand and small market teams (yes Denver is huge but nobody cares about CU in Denver). That’s a damn good number for a game like that.
Because if the big brands were playing at that time the number would be much higher. Using your example OSU played an equally unwatchable game a giant Indiana, with a similar score, and with other competition and drew around 2mil more viewers. In reality 2.5 mil is good but by no means great viewership.
Now if you want to make your point on brands the fighting primes vs TCU is a much better example and brought in close to triple the viewership from Rutgers/NW. Awesome news for the Big12 as well.
KidSilverhair
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Yes, yes, I get it, NW-Rutgers and Oregon St-SJSU got good ratings because nothing else was on, if Bama had been playing at the same time those games would have had dozens of viewers, I understand that.
My point was the MegaConferences and GiantSportsMedia keep telling us they can’t make enough profit or stay competitive unless the inventory of NAME BRAND RANKED GAMES increases. Yet here is solid, factual evidence showing there’s an audience for the Oregon States and the Rutgers of the world, if you can get them a broadcast spot that’s not up against Bama and Notre Dame and Ohio State … and, more importantly, that those broadcast spots exist … at least early in the season.
My point isn’t “Oregon State is pulling in viewers when they’re the only game on, they deserve SEC money” - my point is there’s an audience for these teams, it ought to be worth something, yet we kept getting told the only model worthy of consideration is conglomerating as many of the Big Brands together as possible, in an attempt to eliminate those few broadcast slots that don’t feature a NAME BRAND.
In other words, it’s not that ESPN/FOX/CBS/NBC can’t make a profit with a different, regionally oriented model of conferences that makes sense; they don’t think they can make an obscene profit under that model.
My point was the MegaConferences and GiantSportsMedia keep telling us they can’t make enough profit or stay competitive unless the inventory of NAME BRAND RANKED GAMES increases. Yet here is solid, factual evidence showing there’s an audience for the Oregon States and the Rutgers of the world, if you can get them a broadcast spot that’s not up against Bama and Notre Dame and Ohio State … and, more importantly, that those broadcast spots exist … at least early in the season.
My point isn’t “Oregon State is pulling in viewers when they’re the only game on, they deserve SEC money” - my point is there’s an audience for these teams, it ought to be worth something, yet we kept getting told the only model worthy of consideration is conglomerating as many of the Big Brands together as possible, in an attempt to eliminate those few broadcast slots that don’t feature a NAME BRAND.
In other words, it’s not that ESPN/FOX/CBS/NBC can’t make a profit with a different, regionally oriented model of conferences that makes sense; they don’t think they can make an obscene profit under that model.
Then have those teams play on Tuesday and Wednesday when no one else is on. Let’s see if those schools go for it, because that’s the only way you’re getting this kind of window again.
We need to get all of the sports bars in Iowa and where ever we travel to tune in to the ISU games, then have the networks multiply that number by the attendance at the bar, so we can get some real viewer numbers.
They'd be negligent not to try, but I don't see these cases going anywhere. You could possibly argue collusion across the media companies and conferences, but I don't know that has any standing given the contract structures involved.
CycloneErik
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Almost 3 million people voluntarily tuned in to watch Northwestern and Rutgers?
Define voluntary?
That's a good point. I tuned in but it was ONLY because there was literally no other game on. I would have watched ANY other game. So while technically voluntary, it's only because of my addiction to CFB.
