Ranking all 32 NFL QBs

[BvK1126]

As much as I like Vince Young, there's no way he's the seventh best QB in the league. It's way too early to be making that call. He's a media darling, helped out by the fact that he made a few exciting plays last year, but their kicker can take as much credit for the Titans wins as Vince can. That is not to say that he won't become one of the best QB's, but now? He's nowhere near top ten.

I agree with you. King's list is pretty darn speculative. He has Jay Cutler in his top ten in addition to Young. Now, I love the Broncos, and I sincerely hope that King is right that Cutler is one of the top ten QBs in the league. But other than a respectable stat line over five starts to end last year, there's nothing else on which to judge Cutler.

The same is true with Young. His stats weren't all that pretty last year, but he was exciting to watch at times -- against largely inferior competition. I will be interested to look back at King's list at the end of the year and see how close his predictions are.

 

[Mr Janny]

Manning wouldn't be winning as many games or throwing for the same amount of yards with some of the not-so-good teams in the league - but I'm sure of it that he'd still be one of the best QBs in the league and make the guys around him much, much better.

That's my point. Manning is probably a top 5 QB all time. Certainly top 5 in my lifetime. He's as close to Superman playing QB as you can get. That's why he's number one. He could probably do it without the supporting cast. But, is any other QB anywhere near him? I think it takes an All Time great player to be able to put up numbers and win games all on their own without that supporting cast. I'm talking about guys like Barry Sanders or maybe Dan Marino. OJ Simpson, maybe. Eric Dickerson. Peyton Manning is that kind of talent. Carson Palmer is the only other guy on that list that I think brings even close to as much to the table. Tom Brady? I still think that he's a product of great coaching. I'm not discounting his accomplishments, but Brady on the Texans? I think they're .500 at best.

 

[mwitt]

That's my point. Manning is probably a top 5 QB all time. Certainly top 5 in my lifetime. He's as close to Superman playing QB as you can get. That's why he's number one. He could probably do it without the supporting cast. But, is any other QB anywhere near him? I think it takes an All Time great player to be able to put up numbers and win games all on their own without that supporting cast. I'm talking about guys like Barry Sanders or maybe Dan Marino. OJ Simpson, maybe. Eric Dickerson. Peyton Manning is that kind of talent. Carson Palmer is the only other guy on that list that I think brings even close to as much to the table. Tom Brady? I still think that he's a product of great coaching. I'm not discounting his accomplishments, but Brady on the Texans? I think they're .500 at best.

I don't understand your criticism of Tom Brady. Tom Brady had an awful group of receivers last year and still had a very good year. I don't understand why you think Peyton would still be great with bad receivers and then downgrade Brady when he's already done that.

I love both Peyton and Brady, but if Brady had Harrison, Wayne, Clark, Pollard, Edgerrin James, and that offensive line throughout his career I think that it would be unanimous that he's the best QB in the league.

 

[CYdTracked]

Some of these spots have QB competition. For instance don't Assume Brodie Croyle is the KC starter. Huard is listed #1 on ESPN's depth chart and will have every chance to win that spot as well. He had a 98 QB rating in 10 games and that was 2nd behind only Peyton Manning. Not saying he's the 2nd best QB but he did well as a starter and was the main reason KC was even in the playoff hunt and is definately not the worst starting QB in the league if he's named #1 for KC.

Leftwich is not a lock in Jacksonville nor is Garcia in Tampa Bay with Simms there. And personally I think Grossman is still too high at #27. He's easily one of the worst 3 QBs in the league. That Bears defense really bailed him out a lot last year and put him on a team even as good as the Colts or Chargers and I still think he'll be terrible.

 

[ISUFan22]

Brady would be even better, yet I doubt it would be unanimous. There is no other QB that studies the game more than Manning - at least from what we (the fans) know from the media. And lord knows the media loves Brady too.

Manning is like a very surgeon on the field - knowing exactly where each ball should be placed and when. Brady can and does that also just not quite as well as Manning, IMO.

I firmly believe the rest of the NFL should fear Manning even more now than they did before he had a ring. I think that taste will drive him to succeed even more than before - which is hard to believe. While the Colts may not make it to the Super Bowl this season (losses on defense and just a nasty AFC), look for Manning to be a man on fire in '07. King has it dead on.

As for Brady, if the honeymoon continues in New England with the new receivers (namely Randy Moss), he'll have career stats for sure. For Brady's sake, lets hope Moss hasn't eaten too much wedding cake.

 

[Erik4Cy]

IDK about Vince Young and Cutler doin better than Romo...they are all basically in their 2nd year EXCEPT Romo has like 2-3 years of experience and learning from the bench on the other 2, plus I believe he has more weapons around him.

 

[kometclone]

Tavaris Jackson is about right -- near the bottom. I'm a huge Vikes fan but I don't understand why we didn't get a veteran QB to either start this year or to help coach the youngster.

 

[ISUFan22]

I really like Romo, a lot. He had one helluva Cinderella-type year last season, minus the dropped snap. Even in his personal life. :wink0st:

However, I'm not 100% sold. It will be very interesting to see how he bounces back from that embarassing play and keep in mind - he's got the entire off-season to be realizing he is the staring QB for the Dallas Cowboys. That's a ton of pressure, something he didn't have to deal with last year. It just all happened to him so fast - he's admitted that.

Physically he's got it...I doubt too man question that. Now it will be his mental toughness (post bad play) and decision making. He tried to be a little too much of a gun-slinger at times last season - he's not Brett Favre. Could be that type of player, but not yet.

Tack on a new coach/system and he's got a lot on his plate. I'm very interested to see how he responds. I think King had him ranked fairly.

 

[Mr Janny]

I don't understand your criticism of Tom Brady. Tom Brady had an awful group of receivers last year and still had a very good year. I don't understand why you think Peyton would still be great with bad receivers and then downgrade Brady when he's already done that.

I love both Peyton and Brady, but if Brady had Harrison, Wayne, Clark, Pollard, Edgerrin James, and that offensive line throughout his career I think that it would be unanimous that he's the best QB in the league.

You're right. I re-read my post and it does come off more than a little critical of Tom Brady. Perhaps it's the fact that the media force feeds his greatness down our throats.
I do know that he owes much of his success to the toe of a guy named Adam. Had the Pats not had one of the greatest clutch kickers the league has ever seen, I think Brady's name would not appear quite as high on this list. That is not taking away anything from him. Last year he did play well. But let's not overstate his ability. He finished last year 9th in QB rating, and 7th in yards. The highest rated stat he had was his TD passes in which he tied for 4th with 24. That doesn't exactly denote record breaking season. These are good numbers, don't get me wrong, but are they great? No. Are they "number 2 QB in the league" good? I don't think so.
So, you're right, I might be overly critical of him. I'll admit that. But there's no discounting that there is a legitimate argument for him being overrated.

 

[kometclone]

Brett Favre at #14! :rolleyes5cz:

Shyeah-right! And later on monkeys might fly out of my butt!

 

[Mr Janny]

Tavaris Jackson is about right -- near the bottom. I'm a huge Vikes fan but I don't understand why we didn't get a veteran QB to either start this year or to help coach the youngster.

I like T-Jack. (not to be confused with Tom Jackson, whom I despise with every fiber of my being. "It's not always about the Broncos, Tom.")
I think that Minnesota has a shot with him. Just not this year.

 

[zumbro clones]

I like T-Jack. (not to be confused with Tom Jackson, whom I despise with every fiber of my being. "It's not always about the Broncos, Tom.")
I think that Minnesota has a shot with him. Just not this year.

Tavaris needs another year before he is ready to take the field. He showed that he is a little rough when he played at the end of last season. Yikes!

 

[06_CY]

Alex Smith will be much improved this year.

 

[ISUFan22]

Yeah, but did ya read about the receiver situation for this year? Less than great.

I like the Niners to do something good this year, as long as they can keep the WRs healthy and performing.

 

[dbronco7sc]

definately ushering in a new era of QBs...