Proposed rules change

ISUAlum2002

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It's a good start. I think if they made a rule that if play is stopped for an injury, that player has to sit out for the remainder of the offensive/defensive possession, that would curb fake injuries pretty quickly. I understand the argument that it might encourage guys to play injured when they really shouldn't, though.
 

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That a dangerous change. It will make injured players decide to stay in the game to prevent the loss of a timeout or penalty. A better way would be to require the player to sit out for a period of time like the remainder of the quarter. Teams might also not use medical staff on the field. What if a player goes down and the team chooses to just have other players help the individual faking it off the field?
 
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Clonehomer

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It's a good start. I think if they made a rule that if play is stopped for an injury, that player has to sit out for the remainder of the offensive/defensive possession, that would curb fake injuries pretty quickly. I understand the argument that it might encourage guys to play injured when they really shouldn't, though.

Agreed. If you’re down with an injury, it should take more than a play to clear you to go back in. Even if you’re cramping, take some time to get fluids or you’re going to be stopping play later on.

Bare minimum should be 4 plays or the team can call a timeout.
 

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That a dangerous change. It will make injured players decide to stay in the game to prevent the loss of a timeout or penalty. A better way would be to require the player to sit out for a period of time like the remainder of the quarter. Teams might also not use medical staff on the field. What if a player goes down and the team chooses to just have other players help the individual faking it off the field?
It's only after the ball is spotted. The play would be done. The only time there would be any grey area judgement would be in 2 minute drill
 

cydsho

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That's kind of a tough rule. Sometimes it might take a few more seconds to figure out if you are really hurt.
Maybe a better rule would be to have to sit out more than one play. If there is an actual concern I don't think you can accurately assess a possible injury after only one play.
 

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It's a good start. I think if they made a rule that if play is stopped for an injury, that player has to sit out for the remainder of the offensive/defensive possession, that would curb fake injuries pretty quickly. I understand the argument that it might encourage guys to play injured when they really shouldn't, though.
Or, put in a second/third stringer for one play to "take the fall" and have to sit out the rest of the series that he wouldn't have played anyhow
 

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That a dangerous change. It will make injured players decide to stay in the game to prevent the loss of a timeout or penalty. A better way would be to require the player to sit out for a period of time like the remainder of the quarter. Teams might also not use medical staff on the field. What if a player goes down and the team chooses to just have other players help the individual faking it off the field?
I agree with the suggestion that they should have to sit out the remainder of the possession.
 

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Either make the “injured” player sit out a series, or make it a 20 yard penalty if they come back in before then. The about of flopping that some teams do really has affected the flow of the game the last couple of seasons.
 

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Either make the “injured” player sit out a series, or make it a 20 yard penalty if they come back in before then. The about of flopping that some teams do really has affected the flow of the game the last couple of seasons.
A 20 yard penalty would be unprecedented. Is the faking injury problem seriously worse than personal fouls?
 

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That a dangerous change. It will make injured players decide to stay in the game to prevent the loss of a timeout or penalty. A better way would be to require the player to sit out for a period of time like the remainder of the quarter. Teams might also not use medical staff on the field. What if a player goes down and the team chooses to just have other players help the individual faking it off the field?
Are you kidding? Forcing them to sit out the rest of the quarter would definitely make injured players stay in the game.

This rule should work out fine. Refs are going to be pretty cautious with it. Basically if it's a late, non-contact injury while the offense is trying to hurry up, throw the flag.
 
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Sitting out remainder of possession seems like a good rule.

Feel like they should also address scrum football. Whether on tush push with QB sneak or OL aiding running backs.
 

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Back in the day I had reason to know about one of the most famous faking injuries games. 1953, last game of the season, Notre Dame's antics cost it the natty, I believe. Nevermind the opponent ;-)

Notre Dame faked injuries twice, in the waning seconds of the first half and in the final seconds of the second.

Wiki:

Iowa improved in 1953, starting the season with a 3–3 record. Iowa then defeated Purdue, 26–0, and Minnesota, 27–0, in consecutive weeks to set up the most controversial game in school history. The final game of the season was against #1 Notre Dame in South Bend. Notre Dame was a 13-point favorite. In fact, not only was Notre Dame the top-ranked team in the nation, the AP writers had voted the Irish number one by the largest margin in their poll's history. With just seconds remaining in the first half and Iowa holding a 7–0 lead, Notre Dame was stopped for no gain on Iowa's seven-yard line. A tackle for the Irish screamed and fell to the ground, and the clock was stopped for the injury with just two seconds remaining. The Irish broke huddle and the officials signaled for the clock to start. Notre Dame was able to set down the lines, call signals, and snap the ball before time expired, and Notre Dame completed a touchdown pass on the final play of the half. The game was tied at halftime, 7–7. Iowa scored another touchdown with two minutes remaining in the game. With just 32 seconds left on the clock, Notre Dame advanced the ball to the Iowa 19-yard line. But the clock was running, and Notre Dame had no timeouts remaining Again, an injury timeout was granted, but this time, two Notre Dame players fell at the same time, apparently unaware of the other. Both players left the field unassisted, and Notre Dame quickly resumed their drive. With six seconds to play, Notre Dame completed another touchdown pass and salvaged a 14–14 tie.[22][23]

Iowa sportscaster Bob Brooks said, "In retrospect, faking an injury was common in those days. That's what teams did, anything to get a timeout. However, it was abnormal in that Frank Leahy, the Notre Dame coach, had the Irish fainting all over the place. Players went down like they were shot."[24] Critics labeled Notre Dame the "Fainting Irish",[25] and while there was no official rule against faking injuries, many critics questioned the practice. When Notre Dame star Johnny Lattner was asked about it, he responded, "Pretty smart thinking, wasn't it?"[26]

Famed sportswriter Grantland Rice stated, "I consider it a complete violation of the spirit and ethics of the game and was sorry to see Notre Dame, of all teams, using this method. Why, in heaven's name, was it allowed? If this violates neither the rules nor the coaching code, let's throw them both out the window. Some people are calling it smart playing. I think it was disgraceful playing."[27]

Evashevski attended a pep rally when he returned to Iowa City, and he parodied Rice himself when he said, "When the One Great Scorer comes to write against our name, He won't write whether we won or lost, but how come we got gypped at Notre Dame."[25] Evashevski said, "Don't celebrate a tie; celebrate a victory. I was there Saturday, and if ever a team won a game, Iowa won a victory at Notre Dame Saturday." School officials eventually ordered Evashevski to apologize for his remarks.[28] The tie cost the Irish the #1 spot in the final AP Poll, dropping them to a distant #2. Iowa rocketed into the AP rankings, finishing the year ninth in the nation and garnering six first place votes.

First time I've been aware of this film:

 
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Make them set out the rest of the possession, if a player is faking an injury, his team should not be rewarded for it. Give the refs the ability to stop a game and send a player off if he see they are truly injured.
 
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