It is different when you coach at a place where recruits call you and shoe companies pay them to go to your school. I would not equate our recruiting to Duke and Kansas.
Prohm Defenders
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1-4 this year maybe????? Very few if no one is truly a CPR "defender". Its just not productive to do this all year. Not the year to fire any coach, not only are financials bad, but conditions are such that even some well coached talented teams will fair poorly.
Yes in the 3 years before Fran, Iowa went 38-58 and Frans first season they went 11-20.
In the 3 seasons before Prohm, ISU went 76-29 and in Prohms first season they went 23-12.
I remember posters being concerned he'd leave us for Louisville.
I agree that a program like ISU needs to have All Big 12 type players who stick around 4 years. I would feel different if the state of Iowa produced around 6 top level P5 recruits each year. But typically there are only 1 or 2 and ISU has tended not to sign many in-state kids. They go to Iowa or out-of-state.
A school like ISU has to be careful in the recruiting process in going after kids who have it in their mind they are only going to play 1 or 2 years of college ball. I don't think this was the case with Haliburton, but I feel Horton-Tucker, Wigginton and Foster came to ISU with the idea of being at ISU one or two years and entering the draft. A lot of times they jump before being ready and the best a school gets is a mediocre player.
Kids like Thomas, Niang, Morris and Garza were driven to be NBA players- but their timeline was development driven vs. getting to the NBA within a certain timeline.
For kids who are timeline driven, from day 1 they want to be the man on offense so they can get noticed by NBA scouts. For a school like ISU that is dangerous because to make a one year player a team's focal point, it doesn't create continuity for the next year.
It's easier for Kentucky and Duke to recruit one & done players because they reload McDonald AA's each year. Since they recruit at such a high level in quality AND quantity- they can hold playing time as the carrot. I don't think a coach like Steve Prohm can do the same because he doesn't have the quantity of elite players.
CycloneErik
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There is no way, covid or not, that you can bring this guy back if he rolls a donut in the W column in the Big 12.
CycloneErik
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I hope we don't roll the donut, and I really hope that Pollard doesn't see this as a challenge.
The only thing missing is the other B12 coaches talking about how a great of a coach Prohm is.
We're ******* terrible and that's underselling it. Can't imagine the heat he would get if football wasn't doing what they're doing.
We just lost to the worst team in the conference. Who lost to a Division II team by double digits. Who just shot 44% and 17% from 3 in Hilton (I.e. it’s not like they got white hot). And we lost.
That’s the worst effort and execution I’ve seen from Iowa State basketball in 15 years. That includes games against Milwaukee. And Florida A&M. And South Dakota State.
ISU basketball. Officially cratered.
That’s the worst effort and execution I’ve seen from Iowa State basketball in 15 years. That includes games against Milwaukee. And Florida A&M. And South Dakota State.
ISU basketball. Officially cratered.
