My bad!I was waiting for @derpyherky to tell me how that was an outdated design from the 70's.
My bad!I was waiting for @derpyherky to tell me how that was an outdated design from the 70's.
Where does heat get rejected to if this is the case?
I was waiting for @derpyherky to tell me how that was an outdated design from the 70's.
This reminds me. It isn't now like it was originally designed. There was no provision for rigging from the ceiling beams as the wood ceiling totally covered the underside of the beams in a solid wood ceiling. Gaps were cut away over time to allow things to be rigged and eventually they made pretty much every beam that could potentially be a rigging point accessible. So when the ceiling was solid except for a few lighting bays there is a possibility that much less heat could make its way to this ceiling area so provisions for freezing of the fire suppression system could have been a possibility.The actual design of the suspended ceiling is an outdated bad design. If you've ever been up there, you'd understand..........
Are you suggesting that boards simply nailed onto the underside of wooden stringers 80 feet up in the air is a bad idea?The actual design of the suspended ceiling is an outdated bad design. If you've ever been up there, you'd understand..........
I was in band and choir in high school (NERD) and it is so painful. I don't know what's worse, clapping in rhythm to the intro song or how fast fans start clapping during the fight songI have never seen so many rhythm-impaired people in a confined space as I do in Hilton!
Lew will tell you that there are times when I just have to stop...because it's so annoying to have everyone around me out of sync. It can almost make you nauseous!I was in band and choir in high school (NERD) and it is so painful. I don't know what's worse, clapping in rhythm to the intro song or how fast fans start clapping during the fight song
Are you suggesting that boards simply nailed onto the underside of wooden stringers 80 feet up in the air is a bad idea?
I was in band and choir in high school (NERD) and it is so painful. I don't know what's worse, clapping in rhythm to the intro song or how fast fans start clapping during the fight song
The actual design of the suspended ceiling is an outdated bad design. If you've ever been up there, you'd understand..........
This reminds me. It isn't now like it was originally designed. There was no provision for rigging from the ceiling beams as the wood ceiling totally covered the underside of the beams in a solid wood ceiling. Gaps were cut away over time to allow things to be rigged and eventually they made pretty much every beam that could potentially be a rigging point accessible. So when the ceiling was solid except for a few lighting bays there is a possibility that much less heat could make its way to this ceiling area so provisions for freezing of the fire suppression system could have been a possibility.
OK, I misunderstood what you were referring to in your original message. CF's resident Plumber's Helper was talking about why water would be at the top, you mentioned outdated design, hence my confusion.
And no, I've never been up there. No desire to go there either.
Has anyone ever seen this old design concept of Hilton?
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When there's a crowd, sure. But I'm sure it is in heating most of the winter. And when it's in cooling in the winter, it would most likely be economizer cooling.It'd be interesting to see the energy use of HIlton. I'm betting it's in cooling most of the year. I tried the FPM site, but since I'm not on an ISU network or VPN, it wouldn't show it to me.
Has anyone ever seen this old design concept of Hilton?
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Given the number of times we have seen Hilton flooded, an ark design concept isn't really all that strange!Has anyone ever seen this old design concept of Hilton?
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I gotchya!
From my guess, they use chilled water to cool and condition the air the air.
When there's a crowd, sure. But I'm sure it is in heating most of the winter. And when it's in cooling in the winter, it would most likely be economizer cooling.
There'd be plenty of "regular" spaces in Hilton that would behave in heating/cooling more like a typical building and less like an arena - offices, locker rooms, etc.