Pat Downey Taking "Official Visit" to Iowa

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Wait, you think this is about ISU? How delusional are you?

This would be a desperation move by Brands, but that desperation is from the school that has won 6 of the last 7 national titles, not the school that hasn't beaten Iowa since W's first term.

Exactly. This is about getting back to the top vs. PSU's lineup. Has nothing to do with ISU.

I also seem to remember a lot of ISU fans talking about what a scumbag Brent Metcalf was during his years wrestling for Iowa. Now that he's coaching in Ames, there's been a little back pedaling.

For the record, I don't want Downey or his dad infecting Iowa City.
 

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Wow, has their program fallen this far now? Desperate enough to take team cancers and troublemakers into their program. Wow.
 

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Exactly. This is about getting back to the top vs. PSU's lineup. Has nothing to do with ISU.

I also seem to remember a lot of ISU fans talking about what a scumbag Brent Metcalf was during his years wrestling for Iowa. Now that he's coaching in Ames, there's been a little back pedaling.

For the record, I don't want Downey or his dad infecting Iowa City.

Brent Metcalf was a punk as a wrestler, but from almost anyone who has been around him since he's been married and has had children is that he's grown up a LOT and is a pleasure to be around.

Downey.... not so much.
 

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Brent Metcalf was a punk as a wrestler, but from almost anyone who has been around him since he's been married and has had children is that he's grown up a LOT and is a pleasure to be around.

Downey.... not so much.

Hahahaha. Exactly.
 
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Exactly. This is about getting back to the top vs. PSU's lineup. Has nothing to do with ISU.

I also seem to remember a lot of ISU fans talking about what a scumbag Brent Metcalf was during his years wrestling for Iowa. Now that he's coaching in Ames, there's been a little back pedaling.

For the record, I don't want Downey or his dad infecting Iowa City.

I mean, I get what you're saying, and there has been backpedaling. But we're talking about a guy in Metcalf who hasn't been a Hawkeye wrestler in 7 years and is now 31. It's reasonable to think he's grown up. And for the record, I wasn't watching too much wrestling when he was there. Knew the name, knew he was good, didn't know anything else about him.

Downey has made no apparent changes in attitude, and his Twitter account is still pretty childish.

I agree that adding Downey has nothing to do with ISU, and I doubly agree that you don't want Downey in Iowa City.
 

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Exactly. This is about getting back to the top vs. PSU's lineup. Has nothing to do with ISU.

I also seem to remember a lot of ISU fans talking about what a scumbag Brent Metcalf was during his years wrestling for Iowa. Now that he's coaching in Ames, there's been a little back pedaling.

For the record, I don't want Downey or his dad infecting Iowa City.

Hawkeye obsession and hate for PD3 far exceeded that of any dislike displayed for Metcalf from cyclone fans. We never had our own derogatory nickname for Metcalf (like Iowa fans did for McRib errrr Downey). A few cyclone fans expressed displeasure with how Metcalf handled himself after the NCAA finals match against Caldwell, but that sentiment was shared by anyone not wearing black and gold glasses.

There is also all of this..

1: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/mcriblet.189056/#post-4539760
2: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/pd3.195188/
3: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/pd3-ttotd-twitter-thread-of-the-day-saturday-edition.193567/
4: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/downey-just-tweeted-that-he-wants-tobe-a-hawkeye.193245/
5: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/brands-bros-to-corner-pd3-at-trials.189906/
6: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/pdiii-where-will-he-go.186714/
7: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/downeys-instagram.182627/
8: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/looks-like-downey-is-gone-from-isu.182230/
9: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/pd3.180774/
10: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/serious-downey-isu-question.179138/

Any backpedaling that occurred when Metcalf was hired at ISU will pale in comparison to the backpedaling necessary by hawkeye fans to rationalize PD3 becoming a hawk. To suggest otherwise is asinine.
 

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Hawkeye obsession and hate for PD3 far exceeded that of any dislike displayed for Metcalf from cyclone fans. We never had our own derogatory nickname for Metcalf (like Iowa fans did for McRib errrr Downey). A few cyclone fans expressed displeasure with how Metcalf handled himself after the NCAA finals match against Caldwell, but that sentiment was shared by anyone not wearing black and gold glasses.

There is also all of this..

1: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/mcriblet.189056/#post-4539760
2: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/pd3.195188/
3: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/pd3-ttotd-twitter-thread-of-the-day-saturday-edition.193567/
4: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/downey-just-tweeted-that-he-wants-tobe-a-hawkeye.193245/
5: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/brands-bros-to-corner-pd3-at-trials.189906/
6: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/pdiii-where-will-he-go.186714/
7: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/downeys-instagram.182627/
8: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/looks-like-downey-is-gone-from-isu.182230/
9: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/pd3.180774/
10: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/serious-downey-isu-question.179138/

Any backpedaling that occurred when Metcalf was hired at ISU will pale in comparison to the backpedaling necessary by hawkeye fans to rationalize PD3 becoming a hawk. To suggest otherwise is asinine.


Skim a little, couple talked that they would cheer for anybody but him. Wonder how they will reconcile that now.
 

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I have been following their board and watching their process of rationalization. To their credit there are few with integrity that are standing their ground (anonymously) saying they will not support their program if PD3 wrestles for the hoks. The rest of them are "win at all cost" which doesn't surprise me. Through this entire process this is what I find most telling:
  • What does this say about TnT? Men of integrity? Recruiting kids that post blow jobs on Snapchat? Do they feel like they are on mission to save PD3? Do they see themselves in PD3? I guess they do have experience with rape allegations.
  • What does this say about their fans? It amazes me how their fan base rests all of their faith in what TnT says/do. According to their fans TnT are going to be PD3's savior. If they told their fans to jump off the MU parking garage there would be a line in 20 minutes. Talk about sheeple!
  • Their delusional fans are putting their NC hopes in a complete idiot who has to spend a semester in Ames to graduate before he goes to Iowa City. Good luck with that. I hope our student body heckles the $hit out of him on campus. There should be no "safe space" for this tool. In addition I hope the administration reviews every class on his transcript from every school that gave him a second/third/fourth/etc chance to make sure he truly qualifies to graduate.
  • By and large hok fans are complete idiots... which I already knew.
I hope this entire thing totally blows up in their face at the national tourney under the bright lights with all the cameras rolling. Not sure it will happen then but my bet is that it happens... maybe at the ISU dual?!?! I will be front row stirring the pot, respectfully of course. ;)
 
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He will take an on line class and probably not be in Ames. I think his summer classes were online. That is my guess.

My only take vs the Hawk thought is, KJ supposedly brought Pat in to help save his job at all cost. What is Tom bring Pat in for? Maybe save the Hawks from having their worst NCAA finish since pre Gable.
 
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I have been following their board and watching their process of rationalization. To their credit there are few with integrity that are standing their ground (anonymously) saying they will not support their program if PD3 wrestles for the hoks. The rest of them are "win at all cost" which doesn't surprise me. Through this entire process this is what I find most telling:
  • What does this say about TnT? Men of integrity? Recruiting kids that post blow jobs on Snapchat? Do they feel like they are on mission to save PD3? Do they see themselves in PD3? I guess they do have experience with rape allegations.
  • What does this say about their fans? It amazes me how their fan base rests all of their faith in what TnT says/do. According to their fans TnT are going to be PD3's savior. If they told their fans to jump off the MU parking garage there would be a line in 20 minutes. Talk about sheeple!
  • Their delusional fans are putting their NC hopes in a complete idiot who has to spend a semester in Ames to graduate before he goes to Iowa City. Good luck with that. I hope our student body heckles the $hit out of him on campus. There should be no "safe space" for this tool. In addition I hope the administration reviews every class on his transcript from every school that gave him a second/third/fourth/etc chance to make sure he truly qualifies to graduate.
  • By and large hok fans are complete idiots... which I already knew.
I hope this entire thing totally blows up in their face at the national tourney under the bright lights with all the cameras rolling. Not sure it will happen then but my bet is that it happens... maybe at the ISU dual?!?! I will be front row stirring the pot, respectfully of course. ;)

You hope your student body heckles a guy trying to go to school? Wow!!
 
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I have been following their board and watching their process of rationalization. To their credit there are few with integrity that are standing their ground (anonymously) saying they will not support their program if PD3 wrestles for the hoks. The rest of them are "win at all cost" which doesn't surprise me. Through this entire process this is what I find most telling:
  • What does this say about TnT? Men of integrity? Recruiting kids that post blow jobs on Snapchat? Do they feel like they are on mission to save PD3? Do they see themselves in PD3? I guess they do have experience with rape allegations.
  • What does this say about their fans? It amazes me how their fan base rests all of their faith in what TnT says/do. According to their fans TnT are going to be PD3's savior. If they told their fans to jump off the MU parking garage there would be a line in 20 minutes. Talk about sheeple!
  • Their delusional fans are putting their NC hopes in a complete idiot who has to spend a semester in Ames to graduate before he goes to Iowa City. Good luck with that. I hope our student body heckles the $hit out of him on campus. There should be no "safe space" for this tool. In addition I hope the administration reviews every class on his transcript from every school that gave him a second/third/fourth/etc chance to make sure he truly qualifies to graduate.
  • By and large hok fans are complete idiots... which I already knew.
I hope this entire thing totally blows up in their face at the national tourney under the bright lights with all the cameras rolling. Not sure it will happen then but my bet is that it happens... maybe at the ISU dual?!?! I will be front row stirring the pot, respectfully of course. ;)

Seems like you're a little too invested in PD3. Let it go.
 

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If you feel that way about me what are your thoughts on PD3?

Not a big fan of the move. Reeks of desperation in my book. Hopefully he is on a very tight leash and gets kicked off the team at the slightest misstep.
 

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What is Tom bring Pat in for? Maybe save the Hawks from having their worst NCAA finish since pre Gable.
I have the same question, and it seems like the only logical answer to me. I can't see how this works out and Downey is in the lineup at NCAAs. There hasn't been any indication that he is willing to change his ways.
 

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You hope your student body heckles a guy trying to go to school? Wow!!
Isn't one of your best still on the lam from stealing from your football players?

And yes, I'd boo PD3, just like I did Pierre Pierce and Steve Mocco.
 

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