This is honestly significantly worse than 2006. As disappointing as 2005 was, we went to a bowl that year. Third straight year this team has been pathetic.
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This is honestly significantly worse than 2006. As disappointing as 2005 was, we went to a bowl that year. Third straight year this team has been pathetic.
Yep. Those false starts are definitely on the coaches. They shouldn't have made those players jump.
Did I say he mismanaged the FG? No - I said he mismanaged the situation, which he ABSOLUTELY DID.
Do you seriously think the coaches teach the players to jump before the snap?
No. I'm saying Im stunned than seven men cannot stop four men of equal size. Like physically how does that happen? What possible physical deformity do the seven have that prevents them from stopping the four? You have 43% more weight and size and 6 more arms.
So when an entire team is that undisciplined (because committing that many penalties is a pretty good sign of an undisciplined team), are you trying to say that DOESN'T fall on the coaches?
This is the most important thing. This Toledo team isn't good, and even for their standard, they played like a hot mess tonight. A middle of the pack, or heck even below average, team would've cruised to an easy win. This was just a **** show all the way around. This season is a waste. Even if we get a new coach (and Lord have mercy on us all if we don't), it will take a year or two to "implement the system" or some other lame excuse to suck. So we are looking at a minimum of a 4-5 year stretch of being **** at FB.
It's pathetic. The standards are not high here. Go to a crappy bowl game most years and don't get routinely embarrassed by the big boys. For a Power 5 job, it's such a low bar to climb considering we now have the budget, facilities, and stadium that we should be able to easily do it, but we can't. ISU football is a joke.
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Sorry, as we have seen this year, NOTHING is routine for Cole. Heck, their is no ROUTINE anything about our team. We can be handed a gift by the other team and fumble without being hit. While I am mad that Cole didn't make the FG, the fumbling right before halftime cost us an opportunity for some points and momentum - that was where the game was lost.
I'm pretty sure it has something to do with being coached by Rhoads' staff.
At some point, do the players have any responsibility for the losses? Or is it all coaching?
None do, but some run programs that execute consistently and some don't. Overall team discipline is definitely on a coach.
If it were as simple as telling them to do something we'd score a TD every play.
The coaches had a chance to put the players in a better position to close the game in regulation and they did not.
The players and coaches share responsibility for 15 penalties nearly 150 yards.
I'd actually like to know what the coaches are doing to teach the players NOT to jump before the snap.
There is a chance that Toledo goes undefeated and is the conversation for the Dr. Pepper College Football Playoff. I sure think they should get in if they go undefeated and have a victory over us on their resume. Everything is going to be OK. We can still have a good season and everything we have seen since the PinStripe Bowl is just building toward the glory days.
Agreed. But help a fella out, Mangino. If you are kicking it anyway, just center the ******* ball.
Is this all you have? Might as well go with it's just one game fallacy.
We have severe coaching issues, as manifested by consistent and inexcusable self-inflicted mistakes. Nothing exemplifies this more than the penalties tonight.
When ISU is 6-21 over the last 3 seasons (including 2 losses to FCS teams), does the coaching have any responsibility for that record? Or is it all on the players?
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