*** Official #8 IOWA STATE vs #16 Kansas Game(Day) Thread ***

Clonefan32

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Can someone tell me what the point is of dribble hand offs for 20 seconds is that they don’t even seem to be looking to run an action off of it
They don’t work with bad bigs. It’s just an opportunity to double our guards. Gotta do more off the ball stuff for Cujo
 

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They aren't looking to shoot when they drive. More than once Jones or Gilbert got into the paint and just didn't take the shot. They aren't confident in anything they're doing offensively.
 
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19 pts. WTF?
I like how Kansas passes the ball around and gets open shots. We should try it.

They don't really trap on d. They just ride our guards' asses all over the court and get away with it. We trap everything and they zing the ball around before our defender even gets to them. Threes go in a lot easier in rhythm.
 

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someone mentioned that we were 'unwatchable' that is a good summary. How did a legit top 5 team fall so far in 4-5 games. It isn't the refs in this game, they are letting us play too. It isn't Milan, we won tough games after he was out. We have just completely forgotten how to score the basketball, and honestly it is really effecting our effort on def and on the boards. From where we were a couple of weeks ago to right now, it is just unbelievable. This KU team isn't that good. I hope the guys at some point find some pride and at least work their butts off on def regardless if no one can hit a shot the rest of the year. Maybe the most disappointing run of games I can remember as an ISU fan. What the hell happened?
 

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Yeah, how anybody can watch these two teams move the ball and go with the “shots just not dropping” rationale is beyond me.

KU isn’t a good shooting team and is a pretty mediocre ball handling team. But they are about 1000x better at actually running offense, moving without the ball and making things hard on the defense.

ISU has had some incredible games of shot making. But there is no actual offense. Just a bunch of over dribbling.

“Shots just not dropping” is better than blaming the officials which is what we usually see (and see some tonight).

I feel like I’m a broken record saying the same thing over and over and over but this dribbling around for 20 seconds, drive to the hoop and throw up a super low percentage shot cannot be what TJ wants to run offensively. If it is, we have bigger problems.
 

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Very bad basketball that keeps getting worse. They are looking very similar to the women’s team
 

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We double leaving someone open. They are stopping us straight up switching man.
I'm not sure why we don't do the same thing. It doesn;t matter If you have the right guy or the wrong guy on their guys, they'll get a foul if they get stuck or stopped.
 

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TJ and staff are good coaches, I believe that. But it’s time to prove it right now at this crucial point in the season. The scouting report is clearly out on us, come up with a counter.
 
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We’re trying to get into the lane off the dribble rather than off pics. They aren’t calling any moving pics on Hunter so we need to be way more aggressive on our pics and not afraid to create contact on the drive.
 

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Tamin, hit on the arm, no call. Every contested missed shot by Kansas they are bailed out by a foul. Is that the difference, no! But come one now! Tell me when we have gotten that call at home or anywhere???
When there was no call on Tamin’s early drive into the BigDick, I knew it was going to be a long night.
 
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Kansas gives up like 90 ppg, but we’ll have people saying “oh shucks we just need Milan back” if we score 45 tonight.

Where are you getting 90? They give up 66.7 and according to Kenpom they're 5th in adj. d with a bone to pick after Saturday with really athletic players.

Making **** up doesn't help whatever point you're trying to make.
 
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AllInForISU

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You folks calling our players names is BUIIshit. Grow up or turn in your ISU fan card.

Criticize sure, calling them direct / derogatory names that would get your non-anonymous weak ass beat to a ******* bloody pulp by every one of those young men out there is never acceptable.

Knock it off!

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