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Haven't seen a ton of UNI. Does he translate to power 6? He's a unique build of a player
I don't think he does unless he drops 30 pounds and plays on the wing but he'd have to become a much better ballhandler for that.

UNI was absolutely perfect for him. Undersized 4/5 that was more skilled than the guy guarding him. He would have been 1st team all league next year.

Just sucks that a kid gets bad advice from those closest to them sometimes.
 

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I don't think he does unless he drops 30 pounds and plays on the wing but he'd have to become a much better ballhandler for that.

UNI was absolutely perfect for him. Undersized 4/5 that was more skilled than the guy guarding him. He would have been 1st team all league next year.

Just sucks that a kid gets bad advice from those closest to them sometimes.
I agree. The streaky outside shot and he's not a ball handler.
 

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I'll just say if you are still looking at guys based on numbers 1 through 5 for anything except who they may be able to guard, you're doing it wrong. I agree he'll play more on the perimeter in college, but most teams run with 4 guys around the perimeter usually anyway. There's no real difference to me between a 3 and a 4 on offense at this point anyway.

I agree that positions have become more fungible- on both offense & defense. IMO too many people just focus on offense.

I would disagree there is no real difference between 3 and 4 on offense. Both need to be able to hit jumpers if a team is playing small ball. And both need to be able to rebound the ball. But I think a true small ball 3 needs to be able to score off the dribble and create offense for other players. Whereas a small ball 4 should be a spot up shooter and finish in the paint in traffic.

If I had to project, Watson will get more minutes at 4 next season. I just think he will have an easier time guarding stretch 4's. A lot of time a team's 2/3 have to guard the opponents best offensive players. Think Brockington, Smith, Shannon, Agbagi, Allen, Braun, Miller, etc.
 
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We play 4 guards often. I’m not sure what you think a college 4 is, but Kunc ain’t posting up.
We also need some length on the wing to match up with conference foes. Kalscheur posted up Sunday. Doesn't make him a post. If a guys over 6'5 some of you want him to be a small ball four. Watson starting at the 4 means we missed out on the Wisconsin kid we seem to be a heavy favorite on.
 

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We also need some length on the wing to match up with conference foes. Kalscheur posted up Sunday. Doesn't make him a post. If a guys over 6'5 some of you want him to be a small ball four. Watson starting at the 4 means we missed out on the Wisconsin kid we seem to be a heavy favorite on.

Guys develop. Watson coming in and playing small ball 4 is an easier transition from HS than jumping in and playing 3. If he has a high motor, he should earn PT.

But long-term I would agree ideally Watson would be a 3. Long perimeter defender, good rebounder, can power his way into the paint off the dribble or hit jumpers. Oh wait- if he could do all that he would be all Big 12!!!

Where a kid like Watson fits next year will depend on who returns among Kalscheur/Brockington, what transfers are added and Tre King. I would think TJ expects Tre to be a 28-33mpg guy at the 3/4 spots.
 
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I agree that positions have become more fungible- on both offense & defense. IMO too many people just focus on offense.

I would disagree there is no real difference between 3 and 4 on offense. Both need to be able to hit jumpers if a team is playing small ball. And both need to be able to rebound the ball. But I think a true small ball 3 needs to be able to score off the dribble and create offense for other players. Whereas a small ball 4 should be a spot up shooter and finish in the paint in traffic.

If I had to project, Watson will get more minutes at 4 next season. I just think he will have an easier time guarding stretch 4's. A lot of time a team's 2/3 have to guard the opponents best offensive players. Think Brockington, Smith, Shannon, Agbagi, Allen, Braun, Miller, etc.
True. I agree, my point was more that the position he's defending is likely more important as he's probably not posting up nor will he be a primary ball-handler. At least from what I read early on about his game, his defensive versatility should be a strong point. Obviously hard to know exactly how that translates early on, but if he's at least passable in that respect and can hit threes at a reasonable rate, should have PT available to some degree.
 
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I agree that positions have become more fungible- on both offense & defense. IMO too many people just focus on offense.

I would disagree there is no real difference between 3 and 4 on offense. Both need to be able to hit jumpers if a team is playing small ball. And both need to be able to rebound the ball. But I think a true small ball 3 needs to be able to score off the dribble and create offense for other players. Whereas a small ball 4 should be a spot up shooter and finish in the paint in traffic.
Wait, doesn’t your first paragraph contradict with your second? You say people focus too much on offense, then describe in heavy detail what a 3 needs to be able to do, a version of the 3 that very few players can meet. What’s Grill when we go small?

It doesn’t make for good taxonomy discussions, but the description of any position outside of pg is “it depends” imo. How you play on offense is mostly irrelevant as to your position imo. It’s what you can defend.

It’s a guards game, so someone that can be a 3 or a 4, defend both, often quickly becomes a 4 imo. Get as many guards on the floor as possible without giving up too much length, rebounding, and defense.
 
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I don't think he does unless he drops 30 pounds and plays on the wing but he'd have to become a much better ballhandler for that.

UNI was absolutely perfect for him. Undersized 4/5 that was more skilled than the guy guarding him. He would have been 1st team all league next year.

Just sucks that a kid gets bad advice from those closest to them sometimes.
What is your take on AJ Green? Some smoke/rumors he is interested in transferring to Iowa State to play for his Dad.
 

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I think he ends up at ISU.
I guess I just don't see his game translating that well at his size. Feels like ISU will probably have their sights set a bit higher IMO. Nothing against Carter as a player, but my opinion is that ISU will be looking for guys that are far likelier to make a big difference either as a secondary ball handler/competent shooter and in the post. Just don't know if that necessarily fits what I've seen of Carter.
 

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I guess I just don't see his game translating that well at his size. Feels like ISU will probably have their sights set a bit higher IMO. Nothing against Carter as a player, but my opinion is that ISU will be looking for guys that are far likelier to make a big difference either as a secondary ball handler/competent shooter and in the post. Just don't know if that necessarily fits what I've seen of Carter.
Agree.

Based on this year, we haven’t seen much small-ball mismatch by this staff. He’s not playing the defense we want against Big 12 3s.

With Green on staff, they’ll know exactly whether Carter fits with what we do on the floor and what we want in the lockerroom.
 
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