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CoachHines3

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Nope, but I had them quote me after I found out mine was going up and it wasn't in the ballpark to what I was going to have to pay. I had 4 quotes ran and everything came back more than what I was paying so I just stayed where I'm at.
 
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Nope, but I had them quote me after I found out mine was going up and it wasn't in the ballpark to what I was going to have to pay. I had 4 quotes ran and everything came back more than what I was paying so I just stayed where I'm at.
Par for the course right now. Not to mention most carriers getting out of mono lines etc. ACV roofs day 1 for some even
 
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People aren't going to be able to get insurance here shortly.

thought I read something that some insurance companies won't operate in CA but the state is trying to incentivize them to come back. Or if they are operating, they don't offer fire protection anymore and if they do its sky high premium.
People chose to live in these fire and hurricane areas. I'm tired of subsidizing them so raise the rates. Of course, if the companies weren't driven by making billions for ceos and shareholders, that'd help.
 

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You can stream the local LA news channels for free on YT if anyone wants to see this stuff up close. It looks absolutely devastating.
 
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People aren't going to be able to get insurance here shortly.

thought I read something that some insurance companies won't operate in CA but the state is trying to incentivize them to come back. Or if they are operating, they don't offer fire protection anymore and if they do its sky high premium.

This is a true problem in the mortgage world. Insurance companies pulling out or increasing premiums to the point it makes it difficult to make the payment.

Texas has seen premiums bump up due to severe storms too.
 

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Had relatives who needed high risk fire insurance. Right in the foothills. Prime fire area.

A fire raging through LA in January? Fairly rare.
Normally it's is rainy season now. But this year very dry and winds are insane.

Winds supposed to be slowing down by Thursday
 

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This is a true problem in the mortgage world. Insurance companies pulling out or increasing premiums to the point it makes it difficult to make the payment.

Texas has seen premiums bump up due to severe storms too.
All 50 states are under pressure from the insurance companies. Yes, some are worse then others, but its effecting everyone. Midwest is seeing record level increases.
 
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This is a true problem in the mortgage world. Insurance companies pulling out or increasing premiums to the point it makes it difficult to make the payment.

Texas has seen premiums bump up due to severe storms too.
I work in the mortgage business and deal specifically with all things property related (appraisal, title, insurance, and condo projects).

Getting financing- particularly in condos - is increasingly difficult in these areas. Not just because of costs to consumers but because insurance carriers literally won’t write the coverage needed to satisfy Fannie/Freddie, FHA requirements. Other private label securitization is too lazy to write their own property policies so just follow Fannie, Freddie and FHa.

Just last week saw a condo project that could only get a 1M wildfire policy on b building with 56M estimated replacement cost. It was in LA county.

Borrower, real estate agents, HOA all freaking out because we couldn’t do the loan. This is exactly why.
 

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All 50 states are under pressure from the insurance companies. Yes, some are worse then others, but tis effecting everyone. Midwest is seeing record level increases.
Yeah ours went up recently. Sucks ass. But what can you do. Grind your teeth and pay it I suppose.
 
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In watching some coverage was amazed how close to the fires reporters were. Basically like they were covering an everyday house fire but with closer access since there was no FD at the house.

So in an urban environment it appears like there is less a chance of a wall of fire overwhelming someone because of yards and streets. Could be wrong.

Hope those reporters are getting danger pay and have their insurance updated!
It may be of some help, but it can spread pretty quickly even in that environment. The wife's uncle live in Santa Rosa and he said the fires in 2017 moved through some neighborhoods with alarming speed.
 

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People chose to live in these fire and hurricane areas. I'm tired of subsidizing them so raise the rates. Of course, if the companies weren't driven by making billions for ceos and shareholders, that'd help.Stat
Iowa is considered a high risk state from insurance company standpoint.
 
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It may be of some help, but it can spread pretty quickly even in that environment. The wife's uncle live in Santa Rosa and he said the fires in 2017 moved through some neighborhoods with alarming speed.
I’ve spent my entire day at work dealing with this. Learning that there is some confidence in SoCal that these massively wide freeways (like 6 lanes) provide some barrier to fire spreading further. But if fire does jump those it gets really bad really fast.
 

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People chose to live in these fire and hurricane areas. I'm tired of subsidizing them so raise the rates. Of course, if the companies weren't driven by making billions for ceos and shareholders, that'd help.
I mean, it's harsh when put that way, but that's the end of it -- these companies are abandoning these areas for a reason. That reason is because they don't make money.

That's it. There's all there is to it: lack of profitability. Certain areas/states are going to become insurance deadzones.
 

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I mean, it's harsh when put that way, but that's the end of it -- these companies are abandoning these areas for a reason. That reason is because they don't make money.

That's it. There's all there is to it: lack of profitability. Certain areas/states are going to become insurance deadzones.
You realize they are leaving Iowa too?
 
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