No talk on ticket prices?

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From another thread:

Ticket Prices*:

CU: 355 for 6 games (59.17 per game + no required donation over 300 dollars for any regular seat)
ISU: 350 for 6 games (58.33 per game)
OSU: 359 for 7 games (51.29 per game)
Texas: 355 for 7 games (50.71 per game)
TT: 290 for 6 games (48.33 per game)
NU: 364 for 8 games (45.50 per game)
MU: 266 for 6 games (44.33 per game + they have a 440 dollar family ticket that gets 2 adults and 3 kids in to games)
KSU: 300 for 7 games (42.86 per game)
KU: 275 for 7 games (39.29 per game)
OU: Not Listed
BU: Not Listed
A&M Not Listed

Of the schools that aren't listed, I think only A&M and OU would have higher ticket prices than ISU and as it was pointed out, they likely have a lot higher donation requirements for season tickets.

However, if you look at this list, you can see a couple of things:

ISU charges MUCH more per game than most other Big 12 north schools with the exception of CU and it isn't even close. Average ticket price for the other 5 north teams is 46.23. Other than Nebraska I know that the donation requirements aren't any tougher than ISU's and also I know that most DON'T have as big of seat donation requirements. At TT they only have 4 sections of a required 300 dollar donation. 90% of the stadium is $200 donation or less requirement.

Listen, I don't have a problem with the ticket prices. I think it's something ISU has to do to be competitive. But, I also know for a fact that there are people being effected by this. Two years ago I had season tickets with a group of 10 people. Last year it was 4. We're hoping to get some more friends to get tickets with us but it might not and probably won't happen.

I just get tired of the sunshine pumpers blowing smoke up my butt about ticket prices. They ARE expensive compared to the rest of the Big 12, unless you're counting OU, NU, UT, and A&M which probably have higher donation requirements (although I don't think A&M does - most of their donors are 100 dollar donors).

Also, even if schools like KU and MU decided to increase ticket prices next year, (there is still time for them to do so) I highly doubt either of them do it to increase their average ticket price by more than 10 dollars, leaving us with a bigger average per ticket just as big or bigger seat donation requirements. And both of those schools are coming off some of the best year's in their history.

*ALL INFORMATION TAKEN FROM SCHOOL'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE TICKET INFORMATION.

Isu ticket prices are too high especially for the product. Compared to Missouri and KU the ISU prices are extremely high. $70 per game for a IAA game. No thanks.
 

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Yes they do.

Again, there are financially appealing options for those that don't want to pay the $350 pricetag. The choice is yours....really no reason to complain.

Like re-enroll? :biggrin:

Wasn't complaining. Just adding to your stat sheet above.
 

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A couple things i wanted to point out.

I'm sure the majority of people on this thread can easily afford the tickets. I can afford the tickets. I make 3 times as much as I did back in the early 90's. The question for me is about bang for your buck. Could my $2,000/year go somewhere better?

Then comes the comment about "compete with the big boys". The truth is that you don't need to charge $59/game to "compete with the big boys". Hell the "big boys" don't even charge $59/game.

Why does everyone assume that just because you spend money you are going to win? How did Kansas and Missouri do so good this year? How did KSU do so good in the past? KF makes $3 milliopn dollars a year and they can't beat Western Michigan.

As I just stated, you don't have to pay $59/game if you don't want to. Opt for one of the less expensive packages if this bothers you. You can get season tickets for an average of $25/game if you want. I should also say that TODAY, ISU doesn't police where you sit either. You could easily get the $25/game option and sit in a better seat. I think you are trying to make this into a bigger deal than it actually is.
 

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Isu ticket prices are too high especially for the product. Compared to Missouri and KU the ISU prices are extremely high. $70 per game for a IAA game. No thanks.

I try not to think about the prices. I just go for the fun. But if I consider donation, plus ticket prices for 2. It is $300+ each weekend we go to a game. I have to get out of that mindset, but it is a pricey venture anymore. I guess that is what it is getting like anymore.
 

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Is complaining a national holiday in Iowa? If you don't like the price, buy the Cy's pack or endzone seats. Otherwise buy single game tickets. Far too many fans in Iowa think they have a inalienable right to cheap sports entertainment or that the athletic department "owes" them something.
 

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Is complaining a national holiday in Iowa? If you don't like the price, buy the Cy's pack or endzone seats. Otherwise buy single game tickets. Far too many fans in Iowa think they have a inalienable right to cheap sports entertainment or that the athletic department "owes" them something.

What else do we have to talk about? I don't think anyone is going to start talking about what bowl we are going to this year, or which top 20 program ISU will beat this year. It is the only football news out right now, so that is the topic.
 

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ISU Alum- I assure you I can afford it, my wife and I are both ISU alums and are doing fine. I'm just getting tired of paying a lot of money to watch bad-mediocre football while I walk by lots of fans practically giving their tickets away outside the stadium. There is no reason why we should be paying more for tickets than many of the other Big 12 programs. I'm not blaming Chizik for a lot of bad football last year, he has to rebuild. However that may or may not happen, and money is only part of the equation. I don't have to tell you that a lot of programs living on a lot less money than us have beat us over the years, especially lately.
 

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ISU Alum- I assure you I can afford it, my wife and I are both ISU alums and are doing fine. I'm just getting tired of paying a lot of money to watch bad-mediocre football while I walk by lots of fans practically giving their tickets away outside the stadium. There is no reason why we should be paying more for tickets than many of the other Big 12 programs. I'm not blaming Chizik for a lot of bad football last year, he has to rebuild. However that may or may not happen, and money is only part of the equation. I don't have to tell you that a lot of programs living on a lot less money than us have beat us over the years, especially lately.

That is actually a good idea, just buy tickets from fans who cannot use all thiers. I ate tickets almost every weekend last year, I could not give those things away at all. I was posting them here for free all the time, and still got no takers.
 

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ISU Alum- I assure you I can afford it, my wife and I are both ISU alums and are doing fine. I'm just getting tired of paying a lot of money to watch bad-mediocre football while I walk by lots of fans practically giving their tickets away outside the stadium. There is no reason why we should be paying more for tickets than many of the other Big 12 programs. I'm not blaming Chizik for a lot of bad football last year, he has to rebuild. However that may or may not happen, and money is only part of the equation. I don't have to tell you that a lot of programs living on a lot less money than us have beat us over the years, especially lately.

Again...(wish I had a .gif for beating a dead horse), YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY THE HIGHER PRICE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. You could easily get season tickets that could be considered some of the cheapest (if not THE cheapest) in the Big 12 if you prefer.

Why is no one talking about the GREAT, inexpensive, season ticket options that are available??
 

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As I just stated, you don't have to pay $59/game if you don't want to. Opt for one of the less expensive packages if this bothers you. You can get season tickets for an average of $25/game if you want. I should also say that TODAY, ISU doesn't police where you sit either. You could easily get the $25/game option and sit in a better seat. I think you are trying to make this into a bigger deal than it actually is.


If you notice on the first page, that is exactly what I'm thinking about doing.


Since I've been giving a fair amount of money to ISU over the last 15 years I think I have a right to question prices. Also, it's not just about ticket prices.

It's sometimes little things like charging me $50 for a parking pass even though I thought my cyclone club membership covered that expense. At the same time you raise price by $60/ticket. Then the next year after winning 3 games you raise the ticket prices again even though the quality of opponent is weak.

So what's going to happen if we go .500 in 2008. Should ticket prices go to $90 game?
 

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Posted this in the other thread as well. It assumes we sell out to capacity with season tickets. I know..not a reality, but easiest way to do the math. Bottom line is it illustrates a point.


Do the other schools have lower priced season ticket options like we do as well (i.e. Cy's Pack, hillside, endzone??) or are all seats the same price? If they do not offer the options we do, an argument could be made that these options greatly lower the avg. cost.

If I figure 55k capacity then:

Hillsides = $150 x 3k = 450K
Cy's Pack + Endzones = 12k x $195 = $2,340K
Rest of Seats = 40K x $350 = $14,000K

Averages = $16,790k / 55K = $305/seat average

If your stats above are correct, a $305/seat average would put us right in the middle of the Big 12.

Most of the other teams like TT, MU, and KU have things like Endzone seats as well. I didn't calculate their tickets like that into the amounts just like I didn't ours. You're spinning here.

Why is no one talking about the GREAT, inexpensive, season ticket options that are available??

Because they sell out instantaniously through renewals and there aren't nearly enough for the demand. It's not like you can go out and just buy those - trust me, I would if I could.
 

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Personally, I don't see the big deal about having Texas, OU on the schedule at home making a big difference. Heck, I'd rather see us win against Baylor than lose 56-3 or whatever it was to Texas.
 

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Most of the other teams like TT, MU, and KU have things like Endzone seats as well. I didn't calculate their tickets like that into the amounts just like I didn't ours. You're spinning here.



Because they sell out instantaniously through renewals and there aren't nearly enough for the demand. It's not like you can go out and just buy those - trust me, I would if I could.

I guarantee you that you can buy a hillside season ticket (no problem), save some cash as you want, and sit in a real seat if you do not like the hillside. I did it myself for 5 years before I made some money and was able to give back. We are VERY lucky ISU does not police seat/section assignments.
 

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If you notice on the first page, that is exactly what I'm thinking about doing.


Since I've been giving a fair amount of money to ISU over the last 15 years I think I have a right to question prices. Also, it's not just about ticket prices.

It's sometimes little things like charging me $50 for a parking pass even though I thought my cyclone club membership covered that expense. At the same time you raise price by $60/ticket. Then the next year after winning 3 games you raise the ticket prices again even though the quality of opponent is weak.

So what's going to happen if we go .500 in 2008. Should ticket prices go to $90 game?

I think that's the issue most everyone has? When does it end? I'd guess most of us aren't really upset about any given increase or single season price. But rather that's it's been going up and up and looks to keep going that way.

Overall cost have more than doubled the past few year - at least for me. Iowa and a 7th game are on the slate in '09. Already stated we can probably expect a hike because of that. OU and Tex come back in '10 & '11. Probably another hike. God willing and we actually get good... well they probably have reason to keep escalating prices.

Somebody said it earlier that we are paying for the future now, and I buy that . Unfortunately, it would appear that the future isn't doing much other than getting more expensive as well.
 

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I think that's the issue most everyone has? When does it end? I'd guess most of us aren't really upset about any given increase or single season price. But rather that's it's been going up and up and looks to keep going that way.

Overall cost have more than doubled the past few year - at least for me. Iowa and a 7th game are on the slate in '09. Already stated we can probably expect a hike because of that. OU and Tex come back in '10 & '11. Probably another hike. God willing and we actually get good... well they probably have reason to keep escalating prices.

Somebody said it earlier that we are paying for the future now, and I buy that . Unfortunately, it would appear that the future isn't doing much other than getting more expensive as well.


But haven't we been told that for the past 5+ years? We are paying for the future now. Honestly we have not seen a product worth these prices since the 2000 season.
 

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But haven't we been told that for the past 5+ years? We are paying for the future now. Honestly we have not seen a product worth these prices since the 2000 season.

Well, I'm not going to argue on that point solely for the reason we have a 1st year coach at the helm and I do think the future is brighter. And I'll only give you "last three year" as that's JP tenure and I summarily dismiss anything ever uttered by BVD.

But yes...
 

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I think that's the issue most everyone has? When does it end? I'd guess most of us aren't really upset about any given increase or single season price. But rather that's it's been going up and up and looks to keep going that way.

Overall cost have more than doubled the past few year - at least for me. Iowa and a 7th game are on the slate in '09. Already stated we can probably expect a hike because of that. OU and Tex come back in '10 & '11. Probably another hike. God willing and we actually get good... well they probably have reason to keep escalating prices.

Somebody said it earlier that we are paying for the future now, and I buy that . Unfortunately, it would appear that the future isn't doing much other than getting more expensive as well.


THIS I do agree with. The increases will keep coming and it will continue to cost more. This is especially true if the team becomes good. Some people are going to get slighted because of not being economically able to maintain their seat. It is a sad truth, but JP will take on a 1st year season ticket holder that donates $5k and move a 20yr ticket holder that donates $500 at the drop of a hat. He doesn't have a choice and it will definitely cause some ill will.
 

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Then comes the comment about "compete with the big boys". The truth is that you don't need to charge $59/game to "compete with the big boys". Hell the "big boys" don't even charge $59/game.


One thing that I guess we need to consider, when comparing our prices to the likes or UT, OU, etc, is that this might be JP's only option.

I did a little searching for the new donation requirements for the sections in '08. In there they lay out the donation numbers for the conference schools. ISU is 9th in number of donors, and dead last in average amount per donor. Put those together and we're only ahead of Baylor.


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I can't imagine a scenario of us not getting season tickets. It's not fun paying increased prices - but we're gonna do it.

I love football too much not to.
 

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One thing that I guess we need to consider, when comparing our prices to the likes or UT, OU, etc, is that this might be JP's only option.

I did a little searching for the new donation requirements for the sections in '08. In there they lay out the donation numbers for the conference schools. ISU is 9th in number of donors, and dead last in average amount per donor. Put those together and we're only ahead of Baylor.[/url]

Pretty much right in line with the quality of product. I know it is a balancing act, you gotta have the $$ to get the wins and you need the wins to get the $$. But I am tired of cheering my heart out and spendinig my hard earned cash, for just plain bad football (and basketball).

Ok, done ranting, now I will send in my check and forget all about this.