New Microsoft Tablet: Surface

[IcSyU]

Oral hygiene is a preventative regimen. A valid comparison would be to compare it to the regimen that PC users have to maintain to keep their machines running.

Now, imagine a world where you didn't have to brush or floss and your teeth and they stayed white and sparkly? That's a Mac.

That's a valid comparison. Take notes.

Of course to keep them white and sparkly, you had to spend 3x as much up front.

 

[Senolcyc]

And Apple fanboys are the equivalent of people who expect their teeth to be perfect without ever brushing or flossing. Plus, they wear skinny jeans and drink Old Style for the irony. And ride 'fixies'. Stupid hipsters.

I'm an old man with a beer gut. I would destroy a pair of skinny jeans by simply breathing. There would be rivets flying in every direction.

I'm an average guy. And the average guy doesn't want a part-time job working on or programming his devices to keep them operating. People who get paid to do that full-time can't comprehend.

 

[bos]

If you had any experience with Macs, you'd know that they don't require a regimen to keep functioning.

I've owned both. I don't speak with one-sided ignorance.

No software patches or updates? How bout that flashback trojan they were susceptible to? You do realize Apple products are going to become a bigger target shortly as they take up more and more of the market share. You also miss the fact that Windows accepts more software and is more compatible with hardware out there. This opens them up to issues at times but that it cant be avoided since its a necessity. Im not bashing apple by any means here. I actually think their products are great.

 

[BKLYNCyclone]

And Apple fanboys are the equivalent of people who expect their teeth to be perfect without ever brushing or flossing. Plus, they wear skinny jeans and drink Old Style for the irony. And ride 'fixies'. Stupid hipsters.

If I wore skinny jeans I'd probably sit on one of my nuts... Old style is crap. I just pulled my bike out from under a tarp at my mom's house. It is most definitely not a fixed gear. I still like Apple... Haters can hate, but they've done more to influence the industry than anyone else out there.

 

[IcSyU]

I'm an old man with a beer gut. I would destroy a pair of skinny jeans by simply breathing. There would be rivets flying in every direction.

I'm an average guy. And the average guy doesn't want a part-time job working on or programming his devices to keep them operating. People who get paid to do that full-time can't comprehend.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to keep a PC running. Don't visit websites you shouldn't and have decent virus protection and you'll have no issues.

 

[Senolcyc]

FWIW, my sons favor the Microsoft XBox. So far, only one RING OF DEATH machine failure. So I guess that is good, huh?

Sorry, gotta go, meeting some other Apple fanboys for a latte and slam poetry reading.

 

[00clone]

If I wore skinny jeans I'd probably sit on one of my nuts... Old style is crap. I just pulled my bike out from under a tarp at my mom's house. It is most definitely not a fixed gear. I still like Apple... Haters can hate, but they've done more to influence the industry than anyone else out there.

Influence industry...sure, but the typical fanboy rant of "aren't susceptible to viruses, don't take an IT guy to keep running" is crap.

 

[TXCyclones]

Obviously you have some sort of conflicting driver or flubbed up software. In the past two years since I have been rolling out windows 7 around here, I have had zero blue screens or errors on about 50 pc's. It would probably help you to do a fresh install of W7 and get the latest drivers and updates. Then add back your essential software.

I've never added drivers; I'm using the Dell right out of the box. Regardless, I shouldn't have to do all that you've prescribed above. But the solution you've described above tells me that the blue screen effect is not "perpetuating the myth".

 

[Tailg8er]

FWIW, my sons favor the Microsoft XBox. So far, only one RING OF DEATH machine failure. So I guess that is good, huh?Sorry, gotta go, meeting some other Apple fanboys for a latte and slam poetry reading.

Yeah, I guess that's relevant?

My Apple gaming system has never even booted up though...

 

[HFCS]

Nobody defends PC/Windows as vigorously as IT pros. There's a reason for that. You understand it better than anyone else and therefore, it magically works a lot better for you than the average person. It's funny how you don't see the irony.

And there's a reason nobody remotely creative likes a gigantic company who launches products 2-3 years later that are shameless knockoffs of another company's old news.

For what it's worth 5-6 years ago my wife and best friend who were both working in IT made the switch to Mac for all their personal computers.

iPod and iTunes...3-4 years later...ZUNE!

iPhone...2-3 years later...MS Windows phone!

iPad...2-3 years later... MS Windows pad!

The biggest one nobody knows about because they weren't paying attention to Apple at the time:
OSX...2-3 years later...MS Windows XP!

 

[notengonacho1]

I like the look of the Metro interface a lot. I've been a fan of it since they started changing their UI in the windows phone. Frankly, it's more aesthetically pleasing to me than appl's iOS. I'm an Apple fanboy, but I find the iOS interface a bit childish/simple looking. It functions well, but it always seems to limit me in some way which I don't like. That being said, Android wasn't nearly as intuitive for me and I went back to iOS pretty quickly.

I'm very intrigued by Surface and think that Msoft did a very nice job with it. However, I think they made a crucial error in announcing it this early and not being able to release it immediately or within a few weeks. It's going to be old news by the time it's available, and they've set themselves up for a pricing disaster. Did i read correctly that it's going to launch 3 months after Windows 8? If it turns out that people don't like Windows 8, very few will buy Surface. Finally, a lot of articles have mentioned how Msoft just one upped all of it's partners and it may hurt them long term. Frankly, the partners needed the kick in the pants IMHO. I don't see Msoft as one-upping anyone, just setting the bar very high.

The pro version will launch about 3 months after the release of Windows 8, but the RT model is rumored to launch with Windows 8.

 

[aeroclone]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to keep a PC running. Don't visit websites you shouldn't and have decent virus protection and you'll have no issues.

Sure, you can live like that online if you want, if you can even call that living.



Of course as a rocket scientist, my opinion on this issue may not be valid...

 

[notengonacho1]

And there's a reason nobody remotely creative likes a gigantic company who launches products 2-3 years later that are shameless knockoffs of another company's old news.

For what it's worth 5-6 years ago my wife and best friend who were both working in IT made the switch to Mac for all their personal computers.

iPod and iTunes...3-4 years later...ZUNE!

iPhone...2-3 years later...MS Windows phone!

iPad...2-3 years later... MS Windows pad!

The biggest one nobody knows about because they weren't paying attention to Apple at the time:
OSX...2-3 years later...MS Windows XP!

Not true. Windows mobile (2000) was out waaaaayy before the iphone (2007).

 

[acoustimac]

Looks interesting. Depending on the pricing I may invest. Check out the video.
\Surface by Microsoft

One version really isn't a tablet, but rather a laptop. The big question is whether it will be of the same quality as the Zune.

 

[TitanClone]

Nobody defends PC/Windows as vigorously as IT pros. There's a reason for that. You understand it better than anyone else and therefore, it magically works a lot better for you than the average person. It's funny how you don't see the irony.

And there's a reason nobody remotely creative likes a gigantic company who launches products 2-3 years later that are shameless knockoffs of another company's old news.For what it's worth 5-6 years ago my wife and best friend who were both working in IT made the switch to Mac for all their personal computers.iPod and iTunes...3-4 years later...ZUNE!iPhone...2-3 years later...MS Windows phone!iPad...2-3 years later... MS Windows pad!The biggest one nobody knows about because they weren't paying attention to Apple at the time:OSX...2-3 years later...MS Windows XP!

Serious about the phone?

 

[JY07]

And there's a reason nobody remotely creative likes a gigantic company who launches products 2-3 years later that are shameless knockoffs of another company's old news.

For what it's worth 5-6 years ago my wife and best friend who were both working in IT made the switch to Mac for all their personal computers.

iPod and iTunes...3-4 years later...ZUNE!

iPhone...2-3 years later...MS Windows phone!

iPad...2-3 years later... MS Windows pad!

The biggest one nobody knows about because they weren't paying attention to Apple at the time:
OSX...2-3 years later...MS Windows XP!

 

[HFCS]

Not true. Windows mobile (2000) was out waaaaayy before the iphone (2007).

If it was anything like the generation one iPhone user experience you'd have a good point.

I'm not even an iPhone user. I've been a Mac OS user my entire life using the machines 25 years and owning them for 20.

The hilarious thing is since Jobs took back the reigns Microsoft has even copied Apple's mistakes and stupid useless things. Gadgets copying Widgets was probably the most pointless and shameless knockoff ever. At that point why not just rename the company Knockoffs "R" Us?

I will say that in the mid 90s till OSX came out in the late 90s, Macs were just as unstable, if not MORE unstable than PCs. For a good 5-7 years the "user friendly" argument was BS from Mac users. Mac OS 7-9 sucked. That radically changed with OSX. For a few years owning a Mac was like owning something out of Star Trek compared to PCs, until they copied most of it with XP.

 

[HFCS]

I guess if you think watching Thunder vs. Heat is the same as watching Ames Middle School basketball this is a great argument.

If MS early phone and tablet efforts had offered the user experience of iPhone/iPad they've have been revolutionary as well. If they'd have stuck with the effort after the explosion of social media it could have been them too, it wasn't.

It's cute people think Apple wins on "cool factor" alone when MS has had a GIGANTIC advantage with the ability to easily trojan horse products and software into Windows for decades.

 

[HFCS]

Serious about the phone?

Design, functionality and user interface matter.

If Windows mobile phones had offered the same type of experience for 5-6 years before iPhone you wouldn't be able to spit without hitting one today.

It's not like the first company who slaps an operating system on a phone automatically wins something for that.

 

[bos]

I've never added drivers; I'm using the Dell right out of the box. Regardless, I shouldn't have to do all that you've prescribed above. But the solution you've described above tells me that the blue screen effect is not "perpetuating the myth".

I absolutely hate what pc manufacturers load pcs up with before they send them out. Are there a ton of Dell apps on it as well as freebies from various other companies? That stuff can absolutely crap up a system. Again, not a MS issue. This is where Apple has it nice, they control everything that can and cant go on their systems to a point. It keeps the riff raff out.