IDK, there will without a doubt be a massive gulf and those at the top will try to hoard talent.The opposite is going to happen. At least the Big Ten and SEC are going to 110. They led the charge to ensure that you can have as many scholarships as you can roster spots.
I still don't think people are grasping the gulf that is going to exist between those two leagues and the next two. The P4 is a myth. It's the P2. This settlement also ensures that nobody is going to break away from the NCAA.
When they go to 110 football scholarships, 15 MBB scholarships, 17 WBB scholarships, 18 VB scholarships, 25 baseball scholarships and 30 softball scholarships, it's going to dilute that talent pool for everybody down below real quick.
We like to think that but if you look at what goes on in the portal that doesn't happen. We see all sorts of guys that transfer up for a reduced role for the allure of playing in the 'big time'. There are so, so many guys that would rather play 8-10 minutes a night in a power league than 30 in a league where they could be all league type players.IDK, there will without a doubt be a massive gulf and those at the top will try to hoard talent.
But at the end of the day, as CW has pointed out, there's only so much playing time available for each athlete. Plenty of guys would transfer out in order to get on the field in the ACC or Big 12.
There is a gulf, and ISU will not be winning nattys in this era, but we can still enjoy damn good football, and in a conference that we can realistically win.
That’s going both ways though. Guys moving up for exposure and better pay, and guys moving laterally/down for more playing time.We like to think that but if you look at what goes on in the portal that doesn't happen. We see all sorts of guys that transfer up for a reduced role for the allure of playing in the 'big time'. There are so, so many guys that would rather play 8-10 minutes a night in a power league than 30 in a league where they could be all league type players.
Completely agree on the second part.
This is the existential risk to Iowa State and everyone not in the P2.The opposite is going to happen. At least the Big Ten and SEC are going to 110. They led the charge to ensure that you can have as many scholarships as you can roster spots.
I still don't think people are grasping the gulf that is going to exist between those two leagues and the next two. The P4 is a myth. It's the P2. This settlement also ensures that nobody is going to break away from the NCAA.
When they go to 110 football scholarships, 15 MBB scholarships, 17 WBB scholarships, 18 VB scholarships, 25 baseball scholarships and 30 softball scholarships, it's going to dilute that talent pool for everybody down below real quick.
And yet, it worked for Nebby back in the day - they lived on stockpiling recruits.That’s going both ways though. Guys moving up for exposure and better pay, and guys moving laterally/down for more playing time.
One thing money can’t do is increase the number of starters on a football field. They could up the scholarship limit to 200. It’s still 11 on 11.
Hell, the P2 really is a myth in terms of competitiveness in football. Moving forward it’s going to be a small handful of teams blowing everyone’s spending out of the water and hoarding talent.The opposite is going to happen. At least the Big Ten and SEC are going to 110. They led the charge to ensure that you can have as many scholarships as you can roster spots.
I still don't think people are grasping the gulf that is going to exist between those two leagues and the next two. The P4 is a myth. It's the P2. This settlement also ensures that nobody is going to break away from the NCAA.
When they go to 110 football scholarships, 15 MBB scholarships, 17 WBB scholarships, 18 VB scholarships, 25 baseball scholarships and 30 softball scholarships, it's going to dilute that talent pool for everybody down below real quick.
That’s ancient history. There is a transfer portal now and every game is either on TV or streaming.And yet, it worked for Nebby back in the day - they lived on stockpiling recruits.
I thought I saw scholarship limits will go away or increase, as @1UNI2ISU mentions.
Unless a kid really, really wants to have an expanded role, why on earth would they transfer down now? They're going to work in world class facilities making more than the average median household income just to be on a roster. If you're not going to play professionally anyway, why on earth would you take a voluntary paycut and not set yourself up for life after college.That’s ancient history. There is a transfer portal now and every game is either on TV or streaming.
I’d also argue Nebraska made their hay on getting stud recruits who were partial qualifiers moreso than just hoarding players.
I agree with most of your post, and that there hasn’t ever been parity in CFB. I would disagree there’s more parity now than ever.Hell, the P2 really is a myth in terms of competitiveness in football. Moving forward it’s going to be a small handful of teams blowing everyone’s spending out of the water and hoarding talent.
With a salary cap and a draft, in the NFL you can’t even win without either a HOF QB or a really good QB on a rookie deal.
As this rolls along if you aren’t close to spending what the top couple do you’ll have no chance.
It isn’t about conferences being competitive because most in the P2 will have no shot at competing with the blue bloods.
People that talk about lack of parity in CFB are correct that there never really has been parity. But the recent era has had the most competitive balance we have seen in CFB. Prior to the scholarship reduction in the 90s the lower half teams in conferences didn’t even look like the same level of football as the blue bloods. At least recently competitive games have been the norm.
This difference is going to dwarf the old higher scholarship levels. Teams between blue bloods might be interesting still, but the days of solid program knocking off a big dog are going to change me to an end.
Right or wrong in terms of how this works and paying players, it’s really going to be more like a 6-10 team league with different levels of fodder.
I agree, it’s not “love of the game”. All of these kids’ goal is to make the NFL. If you talk to the athletes, every one of them thinks they’ll play in the NFL. You transfer down to get playing time and exposureUnless a kid really, really wants to have an expanded role, why on earth would they transfer down now? They're going to work in world class facilities making more than the average median household income just to be on a roster. If you're not going to play professionally anyway, why on earth would you take a voluntary paycut and not set yourself up for life after college.
Remember, these kids have grown up in an environment of sports as a business since their parents were kicking in a mortgage payment per month for them to play youth sports. The 'love of the game' kid isn't as prevalent as you think it is anymore.
I agree with the bolded, but my concern is that even those non-blue bloods (Illinois, Miss St, etc) could separate themselves to a much higher level than Big12/ACC schools.It isn’t about conferences being competitive because most in the P2 will have no shot at competing with the blue bloods.
People that talk about lack of parity in CFB are correct that there never really has been parity. But the recent era has had the most competitive balance we have seen in CFB. Prior to the scholarship reduction in the 90s the lower half teams in
They don’t always willingly transfer down. They enter the portal thinking they will get picked up somewhere and then end up with no other options but going to lower tier program. Happens to a lot of players every year.Unless a kid really, really wants to have an expanded role, why on earth would they transfer down now? They're going to work in world class facilities making more than the average median household income just to be on a roster. If you're not going to play professionally anyway, why on earth would you take a voluntary paycut and not set yourself up for life after college.
Remember, these kids have grown up in an environment of sports as a business since their parents were kicking in a mortgage payment per month for them to play youth sports. The 'love of the game' kid isn't as prevalent as you think it is anymore.
This. Player mobility will go a long way to prevent a situation like the Nebraska rosters of the past. And as long as the college game is a feeder system for the NFL, playing time is going to matter a lot to at least some players, and probably a great many of them. You can make a million dollars a year riding the pine at Ohio State, or you can make 500k starting for Iowa State. So long as future goal is the NFL, there will be players willing to take less to play more.That’s ancient history. There is a transfer portal now and every game is either on TV or streaming.
I’d also argue Nebraska made their hay on getting stud recruits who were partial qualifiers moreso than just hoarding players.
And destroy their developmental league? Zero chanceMaybe the NFL will just start playing games on Saturdays and finishes off the CFB experience.