NCAA Allocations (and final CR/RPI)

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Not knowing the health of Kysen, I think if he got a match in recently, he would of earned an allocation. I assume he didn't is because he hadn't wrestled in the last 30 days and that made him ineligible. I might be wrong
 

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I'm not optimistic about Kysen appearing, given that he's been out of competition so long, but I don't know.
 

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So to earn an allocation, there are about 4 criteria. Recalling off the top of my head!
1. You must have wrestled in the last 30 days (Eliminated Kysen)
2. You must have reach 2 of the 3 criterias. (Silver level)
a. Coaches ranking around the 26-27 area
b. RPI (15 matches at the weight) and about the 26-27 area
c. Win %age of about 70%.
3. These are sliding scales based on the number of wrestlers that reach these levels.
a. Win %age could go + or - 70% to get to the number.
b. RPI & Coaches can move a little to get to desired numbers
c. I think you have to have 8 matches to get in the coaches ranking, not sure of the amount to get a win %age.
4. Usually 27-29 allocations are given out depending on how the cut off plays out.
 

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Notables that didn't earn an allocation and need to steal one (At Large Berths available in bold)
125 -(4)- Kysen Terukina and Brett Ungar of Cornell
133 -(4)- Kal Orine of NC State & Julian Chelbove of Arizona
141 -(4)- Hayden Drury of Utah Valley
149 -(4)- Jack Gioffre of Virginia & Finn Solomon of Pitt
157 -(6)- Cholakyan of Stanford, Cobe Siebrecht of SDSU, Jacori Teemer of Iowa & Jason Kraisser of Ill
165 -(4)- Tate Picklo of Okla & Paddy Gallagher of Ohio State (Assume because of late retirement of Sammy Sasso)
174 -(4)- Lenny Wolak of VT & MJ Gaitan of Iowa State
184 -(5)- TJ Stewart of VT, Colton Hawks of Mizz, Ryder Rogotzke of Ohio State, Jaden Bullock of Michigan
197 -(4)- Cade Lautt of North Carolina
285 -(4)- Jarrett Stoner of Mizz, Daniel Herrera of Iowa State, & Luke Rasmussen of SDSU (All in Big 12)

Notable questions
1. Will Crookham of Lehigh wrestle? If he does, he will steal a spot in EIWA
2. Who will Iowa enter at 174? Kennedy earned an allocation and if Brands is entered, a Big 10 spot goes back in the at large pool
 
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Project Seeds for Iowa State
125 - #1 Stickenberger of WV, Kysen at #7
133 - #1 Evan Frost, #2 Farber of UNI
141 - #1 Alirez of UNC, #2 Happel of UNI, #3 Jacob Frost
149 - #1 Paniro Johnson, #2 Realbuto of UNI
157 - #1 Ryder Downey of UNI, #2 Cody Chittum of Iowa State, #3 Fish of Ok State
165 - #1 Barraclough of Utah Valley, #2 Peyton Hall of WV, Aiden Riggens at #8
174 - #1 Keegan O'Toole of Mizz, #2 Dean Hamati of Ok State, #7 MJ Gaitan
184 - #1 Keck of UNI, #2 Plott of Ok State, #5 Evan Bockman
197 - #1 Luke Surber of Ok State, #6 Nate Schon of Iowa State
285 - #1 Henrickson of Ok State, #3 Runyon of UNI & #* Daniel Herrera of Iowa State
 

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I am sure there has been discussed but can MJ or Kysen get at-large bids with the amount of matches they have wrestled?

I know peanut could.
 

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I am sure there has been discussed but can MJ or Kysen get at-large bids with the amount of matches they have wrestled?

I know peanut could.
Kysen can and probably would. He would probably be in coaches ranking and win %age. I think the only thing that kept him from getting an allocation is not competing in the last 30 days.

@theshadow , Does not competing in last 30 days keep you out of the coaches rankings?
 

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Notables that didn't earn an allocation and need to steal one (At Large Berths available in bold)
125 -(4)- Kysen Terukina and Brett Ungar of Cornell
133 -(4)- Kal Orine of NC State & Julian Chelbove of Arizona
141 -(4)- Hayden Drury of Utah Valley
149 -(4)- Jack Gioffre of Virginia & Finn Solomon of Pitt
157 -(6)- Cholakyan of Stanford, Cobe Siebrecht of SDSU, Jacori Teemer of Iowa & Jason Kraisser of Ill
165 -(4)- Tate Picklo of Okla & Paddy Gallagher of Ohio State (Assume because of late retirement of Sammy Sasso)
174 -(4)- Lenny Wolak of VT & MJ Gaitan of Iowa State
184 -(5)- TJ Stewart of VT, Colton Hawks of Mizz, Ryder Rogotzke of Ohio State, Jaden Bullock of Michigan
197 -(4)- Cade Lautt of North Carolina
285 -(4)- Jarrett Stoner of Mizz, Daniel Herrera of Iowa State, & Luke Rasmussen of SDSU (All in Big 12)

Notable questions
1. Will Crookham of Lehigh wrestle? If he does, he will steal a spot in EIWA
2. Who will Iowa enter at 174? Kennedy earned an allocation and if Brands is entered, a Big 10 spot goes back in the at large pool
Looking into more depth on some of these.
125 - Ungar has been at 133 this year and is 5-3 and last match was Dec 6th. Not sure if he announced that he was going to 125 or where Willie got this information
133 - Orine is 3-4 at 133. So doesn't have the 8 match requirement. Was wrestling 141 early in the season
Chelbove is 4-9. Having a terrible season
141 - Drury is 14-6, but RPI is only about 57.
149 - Gioffre and Soloman are just lower level guys.
157 - Cholakyan pinned Kane N in the dual and lost 3-2 to Paniro. Low RPI. 14-7 record, so 66% win %age
- Teemer not enough matches - 5-2, so no coaches rankings
- Siebrecht is 9-7 with a low RPI
- Kraisser is 8-7 with a low RPI
165 - Gallagher of Ohio State is 4-2 at 165, so not coaches ranking or RPI, was at 157 most of the season. Looks like Sasso and Gallagher switch weights mid season, than Sasso medically retired
- Picklo is 12-6, just missed win %age and RPI, both in the 60's
174 - Wolak is 12-8, so missed win %age and RPI. Both in the 60's
184 - Rogotzke had no RPI, and not a good win %age, but in the coaches rankings
- Hawks just missed win %age at 67% and 3 short of RPI, but in coaches rankings
-Not sure what happen to TJ Stewart - 10-10 record, so bad win %age and RPI
197 - I must be thinking of a different Lautt, this is just marginal on everything
 
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Project Seeds for Iowa State
125 - #1 Stickenberger of WV, Kysen at #7
133 - #1 Evan Frost, #2 Farber of UNI
141 - #1 Alirez of UNC, #2 Happel of UNI, #3 Jacob Frost
149 - #1 Paniro Johnson, #2 Realbuto of UNI
157 - #1 Ryder Downey of UNI, #2 Cody Chittum of Iowa State, #3 Fish of Ok State
165 - #1 Barraclough of Utah Valley, #2 Peyton Hall of WV, Aiden Riggens at #8
174 - #1 Keegan O'Toole of Mizz, #2 Dean Hamati of Ok State, #7 MJ Gaitan
184 - #1 Keck of UNI, #2 Plott of Ok State, #5 Evan Bockman
197 - #1 Luke Surber of Ok State, #6 Nate Schon of Iowa State
285 - #1 Henrickson of Ok State, #3 Runyon of UNI & #* Daniel Herrera of Iowa State
Hasnt Kysen beaten Strickenberger before or am I way off?
 

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Kysen can and probably would. He would probably be in coaches ranking and win %age. I think the only thing that kept him from getting an allocation is not competing in the last 30 days.

@theshadow , Does not competing in last 30 days keep you out of the coaches rankings?

Pre-Allocation
2 of 3 -- sliding scale, up to 29 allocations
(a) RPI top 30
(b) CR top 30
(c) win pct .700

Pre-Allocation Eligibility
(a) RPI - needs 15 D-1 matches at weight class, FFT/MFF do not count
(b) CR - needs 8 D-1 matches at weight class including 1 in last 30 days
(c) Win% - D-1 matches only, at weight class

At-Large Consideration (after conf tournaments)
(a) must wrestle minimum 2 matches at conf tourney
(b) must meet/exceed at least 2 of the following:
*Win% .700
*RPI Top 33
*CR Top 33
*Win vs wrestler who qualified for NCAA
*Finish one place out of qualifying at conf tourney (e.g., 5th place at a weight with 4 spots)
(c) Unofficially, anyone who earned a spot and then gets upset at conf tourney is usually safe, working from the top down until they get to 33
 
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Pre-Allocation
2 of 3 -- sliding scale, up to 29 allocations
(a) RPI top 30
(b) CR top 30
(c) win pct .700

Pre-Allocation Eligibility
(a) RPI - needs 15 D-1 matches at weight class, FFT/MFF do not count
(b) CR - needs 8 D-1 matches at weight class including 1 in last 30 days
(c) Win% - D-1 matches only, at weight class

At-Large Consideration (after conf tournaments)
(a) must wrestle minimum 2 matches at conf tourney
(b) must meet/exceed at least 2 of the following:
*Win% .700
*RPI Top 33
*CR Top 33
*Win vs wrestler who qualified for NCAA
*Finish one place out of qualifying at conf tourney (e.g., 5th place at a weight with 4 spots)
(c) Unofficially, anyone who earned a spot and then gets upset at conf tourney is usually safe, working from the top down until they get to 33
I did not know about the must wrestle minimum 2 matches at conf tourney. I like that rule
 

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I did not know about the must wrestle minimum 2 matches at conf tourney. I like that rule
It's why you see some guys start the match and wrestle one second and then "injury default" the match. Always looks funny in the results, but that's why they do it.
 

buf87

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It's why you see some guys start the match and wrestle one second and then "injury default" the match. Always looks funny in the results, but that's why they do it.
That is why I like the rule