Mike Leach on the CFP

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It's idiotic they didn't just take the 4 BCS bowls and make them a playoff before they added the peach bowl to it to make 5. They still could easily do it with their "BCS Bowls" if they use 4 as the first round, have a "Final Four" then the fifth as the championship.

8 hangs on to the "every game can eliminate you" but gives plenty of room for all 5 major conferences, a bid or two for other conferences, and a bid or two for an incredible team that maybe made a mistake or two early. No law suits necessary, throw top ranked the non P5 an auto bid. Requiring conference champs would really make it more like a 12-14 team playoff. Bring back the old BCS ranking system to seed the teams and select the best non P5.

I don't know that I care for 32 because some programs basically get a permanent birth into it just through recruiting. 16 would be pretty good too but really not necessary if you set up 8 right and require conference champs with 1-2 at large bids. We all know how incredibly hard it is to finish in the top 16 as that would take the best ISU team in most of our lives.
 

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What if college football were divided up into "regions" as teams are divided into districts for Iowa high school football? Twelve regional conferences. Conference champs earn auto bids to a 16 team playoff. Some sort of committee determines the four at large bids. Seed 1-16 with top seeds playing home games in the first round. I like the NFL style of having the top remaining seeds playing the lowest remaining seeds in subsequent rounds. This takes away the bracket, but might be more equitable.

Not sure if/how bowls fit in, but I also think it is silly that teams stop playing games for a month. Tradition is cool, and I am a fan of going to bowls.

Just a thought.
 

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I definitely think it needs to expand, and while 16 would be awesome to watch, I think 8 makes the most sense. Give every P5 champ an auto bid, and then have three at larges (which makes for some controversy, but then again, what doesn't?). Have the first round kick off bowl season and play them at the top seeds place. Have the semifinals right where they are now on NYE or New Years Day and do what they do now by playing them at bowl games. And then have the national championship like it is now. It's so simple and would make so much sense
 

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The bigger you go the less likely there are any additional bowl games. Expanding to 8 the bowl games probably hold on, but at 16 and certainly 32 there will no longer be any bowl games except maybe a couple that cater to mid-major conferences. The worst case scenario for anyone that's not a 'have' of college football is 16. At that level you have just over 10% (which would be by far the lowest of any sports league I know about that has post season) of the teams making the post season and that's probably it if bowl games do go away.
 
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Mike Leach is a genius football minded Jimmy Buffet. Just a laid back guy that's a little crazy.

I'd totally listen to a podcast of him. I could see him having guests from Alan Dershowitz to Steve Spurrier.
 

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But when will the players get a chance to study?
Just the same way that they study during the regular season...your other bowl teams are in the same boat...and many of the games would take place during winter break. Makes Christmas with the family a bit more difficult...
 

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Mike Leach is a genius football minded Jimmy Buffet. Just a laid back guy that's a little crazy.
I'd totally listen to a podcast of him. I could see him having guests from Alan Dershowitz to Steve Spurrier.

Just guessing, but I'd bet Leach thinks Spurrier is a total jerk.
 

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Expand it to 12 and it only adds one weekend. Five automatic qualifiers from the power 5, give the group of 6 a spot or two, and fill the rest with at large bids. Give the top 4 teams byes, and 8 teams play "first round" games on campuses and then it feeds into the existing format the next weekend. Or let the bowls be the NIT of football and kick them out of the playoffs completely. Why give them a cut of the money?
 

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Always liked him and love his lack of "coach speak". 64 is alittle crazy, but 16? DO IT!!! :D

I think you want to replace the stupidity of post-season exhibition games known as bowl games, so I like 32. Playing games that don't mean a thing at the end of the season is the worst idea ever! You notice every other sport does that before a season as a tune up or a warm up. College football to satisfy the greed of the Power conferences and blue blood teams because they know they can fix the matchups gives us this WWE type spectacle for the end of the season of what is a great sport! And no WWE is not a great finish, even for those of you that like WWE its contrived and we don't need that for college football.

If we consider there are 80 respectable programs in the FBS level thats about the same % of playoff participants the NFL has. I have floated the idea of using the end of the regular season for a long time for a preliminary round or two if needed to fit the number of games in for a playoff while guaranteeing 12 for those not making it.

It won't happen but I wish there were more like Mike!
 

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If I was in charge of improving the playoff and bowl system under the current conference alignments, here is what I would do:

The ACC, Big 12, Big 10, Pac-12, & SEC can select their conference champion in whatever way they choose and those 5 teams make the playoffs. Then an aggregation of polls/rankings is used and the 3 best teams that did not win one of those five conferences are also added. The college football selection committee would then seed those 8 teams (I would have a rule that teams from the same conference can't play each other in the quarterfinals and if there is a team from outside the five automatic conferences they can be seeded no lower than 6).

Those 8 teams play in four traditional bowl games on December 26th. Then a week later on January 2nd in two traditional bowl games you have the semifinals. Then at least a week later on whatever date falls on Saturday you have a designated National Championship Game.

I then would limit the number of additional bowl games to 25. 5 of them would take place on January 1st and the teams would be the 10 best teams that didn't make the playoffs as selected by the aggregation of polls/rankings and the match-ups would be set by the college football selection committee (with the only rule being no conference rematches). The additional 20 bowl games would take place between December 20th and December 31st. The selection committee would pick these teams and match-ups. The rules would be that conference champions from all the other conferences must be selected, no conference can have more than 50% of its teams in bowl games (including the playoffs), and a team must be at least 6-6 in the regular season to be selected.
 

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Why can't the NCAA step in and say "This is how we are doing our former FBS championship once the current CFP contract ends"?

I know there is a money issue, but seems to me that if they control the football championship like they control the basketball championship, then money should be no (or at least not so much) of an issue going forward.

I like the earlier post with making some of the current bowls the NIT of football. They already are, aren't they?