MLB: Matt Holliday is a dirty player
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Holiday is going to get hit tomorrow. Once the players get back to their hotel rooms and watch that they aren't going to be happy. Slide was really late and was no where close to 2nd base. I'm shocked a MLB ump would blow such an easy call (no pirate needed).
Maybe not but being in the pennant race does. Do what you you can, within the rules, to win --------- just what he did. You don't agree? Where are the rulings and fines. well? Get over it, the cubs already have.
Can we get a line on this on the betting threads................should be fun????
I like this idea ... if we get a line up I'm putting 10,000,000 on him getting pegged with a fastball.
I don't know what game you were watching but he clearly didn't touch the bag and Quade got ejected arguing the call.
Of course, if it was my guy who did it, well, that's just baseball.
Very hard to find a fan of some winning team whining about what COULD happen.
Well? Fines didn't come out this fast even for the brawl between St. Louis and Cincy. I'm not saying there will be, but just because there hasn't been yet doesn't mean there won't be.
It wasn't dirty, but it was interference.
I'm sure that if Pujols were involved in a situation like that where a borderline "dirty" play COULD have gotten him hurt, Cardinal fans would be totally content
:skeptical:Castro is our best player. When a play like that could have easily put him out for weeks, we're not going to be too thrilled.
Fair enough -- when there is a fine -- I will apologizeWell? Fines didn't come out this fast even for the brawl between St. Louis and Cincy. I'm not saying there will be, but just because there hasn't been yet doesn't mean there won't be.
It wasn't dirty, but it was interference.
I'm sure that if Pujols were involved in a situation like that where a borderline "dirty" play COULD have gotten him hurt, Cardinal fans would be totally content
Castro is our best player. When a play like that could have easily put him out for weeks, we're not going to be too thrilled.
I don't think there will be, nor should there be. Maybe there will be a release saying that the call was missed, but it wouldn't get fined unless it was deemed to be a dirty play. Good baseball play, you have to try and break up the play.
I don't think there will be a fine either but I'm saying if there was one it wouldn't be handed out for a couple days.
Since interference is a judgement call in the MLB its the umpire's judgement to decide if a runner interferes with a player trying to make a play. The way I always understood is it is only called if you can not touch the bag when you make the slide. Holiday could of touch the bag if he would of dropped his hand (from the replays I saw, and what Tim Macarver pointed out). I've never heard anyone say you have to actually touch the bag for it not to be interference.
Then every slide to break up a double play is dirty. The rip they showed was right at the ankle/ shin. Isn't that basically where your feet end up if you slide sideways?
It could of been a lot worse if he through his feet at say his thigh or higher. Then I would agree it's dirty.
I still go back to if you think its dirty, Hit him. I won't complain (unless you go for his head) that's your revenge, and really if you don't do it in his next at bat isn't it kind of worthless? Why wait a full 24 hours?
I will be shocked if he doesn't get hit tomorrow. Not sure what the tv situation is like in St Louis ... maybe the players didn't see a replay until after the game???
Your opinion, mine is that he could of (through Cardinal Color glasses). Of course the Umpire and the announcer agree with me....
Ump blows the call and then throws out Quade for no reason. If Holiday doesn't get plunked tomorrow I will admit I'm wrong.
