Luke Anderson and Marcedus Leech have entered the transfer portal
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Both of those points are clear and straightforward. All my responses have been. Why do you keep making up arguments instead of responding to the statements in my posts?
Monday, 11/4, it's early. Leech/Anderson meet with Coach Prohm in his office: L/A: Coach, are the playing minutes per game this year for us as shown in the Sunday Register correct?
Coach Prohm: Ummm . . . . what were those minutes?
L/A: Zero.
Coach Prohm: Yes, . . . . within a couple minutes.
L/A: Coach, please help us find other schools.
Coach Prohm: Well, uhhhh, . . . OK, let's get started.
Coach Prohm: Ummm . . . . what were those minutes?
L/A: Zero.
Coach Prohm: Yes, . . . . within a couple minutes.
L/A: Coach, please help us find other schools.
Coach Prohm: Well, uhhhh, . . . OK, let's get started.
I generally agree with you on most things, but you cant overlook the fact Hoiberg had alot of busts as well. It happens.
Marcedus was always going to be a risk. When Luke committed we had Wigginton, Lard, Jacobsen, THT, Haliburton, Conditt, Young, Griffin, Nixon and Lewis all with years of eligibility left. He always felt like a recruit that was meant to fill out the team rather than be a star.
SIAP: **** yes we are a player for Jalen Terry.
Hoiberg had better transfers and its not even debatable.
Where’d you say that? I kinda figured we weren’t really in the running and Louisville/LSU had the lead.
Shooting the moon option here, if Jalen Terry is the kind of talent we would expect to be one/two-and-done, is it possible Terry can reclassify to 2019 and joins us at semester for 1.5yrs of Prohmball?
And yes, I’m (mostly) sober.
One thing about posting CCL highlights over the years is a lot of the players reach out to me for their highlights and I get to know a little bit about them so when they leave, it’s a little bit sad. Leech was always super nice. He always made sure to say thanks for the videos so I’m a little Sad to see him go this early. I don’t see what goes on within the program so I don’t know how he was doing but I was always intrigued about his potential. He looked so dynamic on offense in the CCL. Yes it was the CCL but he knocked down shots and looked extremely quick. I wish him nothing but the best at his next school. I hope he goes and kills it.
Prohm's list is not exactly bad, especially if you leave off Brase and Beverly as desperation plays in an offseason where everything went wrong.
STARS:
Marial Shayok
GOOD PLAYERS:
Nick Weiler-Babb
Michael Jacobson
Donovan Jackson (and going to count a JUCO here)
OKAY PLAYERS:
Darrel Bowie
Zoran Talley
BUSTS:
Merrill Holden
Ray Kasongo
Jeff Beverly
Hans Brase
...still have to fit Nixon, Johnson, and Bolton up there somehow, too. I bet Nixon is going to be a "good" one and Bolton good to start and higher later.
Shayok is the only one even close to the level of Royce, Kane, or Clyburn. If you make a list of the top 10 transfers Hoiberg would have 7 of them and Prohm would have 3. Im not saying his transfer recruiting is terrible, but it isnt on the same level as Hoiberg.
Shayok and Jacobson have closed the gap somewhat, buts its still a significant difference. Prohms high school recruiting is better so it evens out anyways. Ive never had any hard feelings towards Prohm and his recruiting, its his in-game coaching and roster management that really irks me.
Funny how we have two arguments on here -- your faction being Prohm is a bad game manager while @Malone saying he cannot recruit. For the record, if I had to pick, I come down more on your side that the issue is the coaching less the talent.
I think Nick Weiler-Babb might push for your Top 10 list. The kid is underrated. But I accept your general point that Hoiberg was better at transfer recruiting. Your list might need some revisions depending on how Nixon and Bolton end up playing, as well.
I think you have to knock some points off for BDJ, too. The guy took a season down with him. He could be just about the best and obviously the worst when he wanted to. Thanks for acknowledging that Shayok ranks among the greater transfers we have ever had, too.
Fred had the advantage of being the first guy to really make it a cornerstone of his team-building, and now everybody and their brother does it, and he was not as good of a recruiter of high school/prep talent, but it washes out on overall talent.
I have never really cared how talent comes to Ames. I care that it does. Trying to recreate a specific formula for success in every single way forever is a plan for disaster in a world that is always changing so much. As long as Prohm brings in the ponies, however he finds them, then I do not really care how he does it, transfers or not.
My own life influences this thinking -- my boss has always told me that he cares that I am selling way more than how I am doing it, assuming I am staying within the bounds of policy and the law. Recruiting is the exact same idea.
Lol, you just posted this the other night. Im not Malone!!! We both have concerns about Prohm as a coach, we just have different views on what exactly he could be doing better.
Yeah, I know, not the first time I have expressed this notion.
I just find it odd the "concerned" crowd disagrees on what to be concerned about.
Usually there is some sort of consensus about why it is not working. Not here.
I said Prohm would have 3 on the list, those 3 I would put on it are Shayok, NWB, and Jacobson.
