Morehouse doesn’t realize his hawks are a pipsqueak in the eyes of the big boys of the b1g. If he doesn’t like their schedule now, just wait until OSU, Michigan, PSU, MSU, and Wisky are influencing the schedule makers of the conference.
Look Who’s Complaining About B1G Scheduling Now ...
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Having no divisions would be the absolute worst scenario for Iowa. They'd never make the B1G title game again.
This could happen, but it would need the playoff to go to 8 teams, and the conferences to take football back from under the NCAA. It could happen - money could drive both those things.
The P5 could "rationalize" into 8 divisions of 9 teams each (adding a few G5 and ND I suppose), and conferences would be OK swapping a few teams on geography (say ISU or Mizzzou to the B1G) since it was all consensual. You'd play your 8 division opponents, some non-cons, and then the 8 division winners are your CFP. The B1G, SEC, ACC could still exist with 2 divisions each, the PAC and Big12 would prob just have 1 each (thus the rationalization of teams a bit).
Either continue with CCGs (slightly modified) for round 1, or just seed all 8 so the committee has something to talk about and everyone has something to b!tch about. The only downside I see is that you might want wildcards - in case you have a division with 2 really great teams in the same year, then you'd need 1 or 2 less divisions. And you would lose a CCG. Just have another bowl game I suppose.
This is what I would do if I was dictator for life, anyway.
This makes reasonable sense. I wouldnt expand the playoffs directly though, have the division winners play championship weekend with the 4 winning teams making the playoffs and the losers then head off to their respective bowl games.
IMO it should be required of all conferences to play 9 conference games or at the very least 10 P5 opponents. Get rid of the 1AAs and weigh being a conference champion more heavily. Go to 8 playoff teams and all winners of P5 title games get an auto-bid. Then you have 1 spot for the best G6 team and 2 at-large bids. Make the first round of the playoffs on-campus or at the nearest domed location of the higher seeded team.
In a perfect world I agree.
When the broadcast partners pull out the checkbook and start making demands.....then I'd have to listen.
Money. The cause and cure of just about everything
Big 12 revenues have trended up the last couple years. How has expanding treated the PAC 12?
Meh - a dome shouldn't be a requirement. It's not like the first round will be played in January.
I just don’t really care that much because it doesn’t impact us.
When it's my turn to be god here is how it will look:
Top 88 programs in country divided into eight 11 team conferences.
Everyone will play 10 conference and 2 non con games
Each conference has conference championship and winner goes into 8 team playoff for NC
These 88 teams will make up A league
Remaining 50 or so programs go into similar structure (B league if you will)
Every 3-5 years based on some type of RPI rating top ten B League teams get moved up and bottom 10 A league teams get moved down.
Alternate version: take top 112 programs and divide into eight 14 team conferences. Round robin 13 game conference schedule with no non con games. Eight conference winners go into playoff for NC. Every game matters an no place to hide.
Everyone outside top 112- sucks to be you.
Top 88 programs in country divided into eight 11 team conferences.
Everyone will play 10 conference and 2 non con games
Each conference has conference championship and winner goes into 8 team playoff for NC
These 88 teams will make up A league
Remaining 50 or so programs go into similar structure (B league if you will)
Every 3-5 years based on some type of RPI rating top ten B League teams get moved up and bottom 10 A league teams get moved down.
Alternate version: take top 112 programs and divide into eight 14 team conferences. Round robin 13 game conference schedule with no non con games. Eight conference winners go into playoff for NC. Every game matters an no place to hide.
Everyone outside top 112- sucks to be you.
And the SEC and Big 10 have seen their revenue fall?
PAC is a different animal. Their gambit failed and their mismanagement has cost them.
If ESPN says the Big 12 needs to expand then I'm sure we aren't going to bite the hand that feeds us.
Well when the Big 12 doesn't make the playoff it impacts ISU to the tune of lower revenue and a lower bowl game for our favorite team.
ISU is also a good team and of course we're hoping for a Big 12 championship. What if we have two losses, one to OU and one to TCU. Had we only played 8 conference games perhaps we would not have played TCU so only 1 loss. That is the difference of being in the playoff and not being in the playoff.
There are a lot of possibilities, you could also go with wildcards having to "play-in" and the auto bids getting the bye since they won the championship game. This would mean all the champions get a auto bid, Then your play-in game the next weekend. This could also allow for more G5 teams getting a "Cinderella shot" so to speak.
I think the fact is, we have to believe something WILL happen more than likely. The idea that nothing happens is very unlikely. History shows if you wait a minute things change, and expect the unexpected.
Things have been fairly stable and quiet now for a while and I think it will be for maybe a year or two more but things are going to heat up and the next round could really change things, from the conferences to the playoff. It will be money that drives it, but will the playoff drive it, media deals, conference problems or some other reason is yet to be seen.
It is just the way it always has been they never sit still for too long.
Are you referring to the "undefeated" 12-2 season in which they lost to anyone with a pulse.
The Pac 12 revenue problems stem from a lot more than just the expansion to 12 teams.
Great Idea, problem is we have a conference system now and they control everything, you are never going to completely rework the entire system like that. You are not going to tell all the conferences they are going to disband and redistribute to what someone or some committee thinks is the right groups go from there.
So you have to find a realistic route to where the current conferences make realistic moves to get to a future expansion of the playoff, or conferences, or opposite of that.
While I can see some more expansions, or mergers, or maybe a group splitting off to form a new conference, I dont see a complete reconstruction of the college sports landscape.
You have to realize, while Football is king, this also has to work for other sports too.
If there were no divisions then OSU, PSU,MSU and MU could not play each other and pick up MN or IL, etc, instead, assuring that their would be multiple B10 teams in the top 10.
CycloneErik
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2 thoughts:
1. When you're the greatest conference in the history of football, every opponent is a cupcake.
2. When you're the greatest conference in the history of football, opponents don't need money. They bask in the glow of SEC prestige and know that, for just one fleeting Saturday, their programs and lives matter.
