List of potential replacements should Fred Hoiberg leave

clonedude

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I feel pretty confident that Hornacek is jockeying for an extension with the Suns and has 0% interest in being our next coach. You guys are setting yourself up for disappointment but that's on you, not JP.

I think he likely is as well. However, as the AD, JP has to at least throw some money at him and see if he'll bite.

It will be disturbing if TJ is hired as our next head coach and we come to find out that we didn't even pursue the Hornacek option at all.

Just like it would be very disappointing if we found out that JP didn't make Fred a better offer to stay here either.

As the AD, I think you have to show that you did everything you could to A. Keep Fred...... and then B. If Fred leaves, show you did everything you could to lure Hornacek.

Obviously JP can do whatever he wants basically, but he won't lose faith in his fanbase if he can show he at least attempted to do these things before just settling for TJ.

I'm not even that against TJ getting the job, but not if other options haven't at least been pursued.
 

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he won't be getting a call either, we already have our coach lined up.

You are probably right. Knowing what I know it would be very disappointing if we are not considering Jeff for the job and at least talk to him.

Even if it means ISU ultimately getting used to parlay a better contract in Phoenix for Jeff, need to take the chance.
 

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Can someone please tell me what makes college basketball recruiting so tough? An average of 2-3 recruits sign in a given year along with transfers. Now college football recruiting would be tough, but you are recruiting lots of kids and administering several camps.
 

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Can someone please tell me what makes college basketball recruiting so tough? An average of 2-3 recruits sign in a given year along with transfers. Now college football recruiting would be tough, but you are recruiting lots of kids and administering several camps.

The pandering I would guess.
 

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Can someone please tell me what makes college basketball recruiting so tough? An average of 2-3 recruits sign in a given year along with transfers. Now college football recruiting would be tough, but you are recruiting lots of kids and administering several camps.

The ethics of recruiting comes into play.. Rashard Vaughn is a perfect example.. All that work, you think you got him and strangely he goes to a school that was not on the radar originally.
 

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So as of yesterday afternoon no contact yet with Hornacek by search committee /service, or ISU. More and more I am told, sounds like he would consider an offer but ultimately if the Suns came in and offered an extension, he would stay. Cannot emphasize though how much he does not relish the thought of getting in the swamp that is recruiting, that is why the offer needs to be a significant one.

Edit: The person I know is a Hornacek family member I have worked with a long time. I promised the guy I would not bug him this weekend unless Fred thing came official. :)
So probably will not have much new news til Monday.

Jeff could leave the recruiting to Otz. I have seen people claiming that Fred's success was all due to Otz's recruiting. If that's the case then the same situation could work with Jeff as head coach. With an NBA head coach, it would make Otz's job of selling ISU to recruits a lot easier.
 

cloneteach

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Can someone please tell me what makes college basketball recruiting so tough? An average of 2-3 recruits sign in a given year along with transfers. Now college football recruiting would be tough, but you are recruiting lots of kids and administering several camps.


Its not more difficult than football recruiting but in a way its certainly more high stakes. You only have 13 scholarships to work with, many more games to attend, and more pressure for them to produce right away. I can see why its not appealing to some to fly all over the country to "flirt" with 14-15 year olds for four consecutive years only to have them go elsewhere.
 

cloneteach

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I like all the "open up the checkbook" posts, but are each of you willing to open up yours so Jamie can?


The part I don't get about all of this is why people feel Jamie can just all of a sudden give Hornacek 3 million a year when he said Fred's last deal was the best he could do.
 

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If the most we can give a coach is 2.6 million, then that's a problem. No way we'll be able to keep any coach that's successful here with that kind of budget.
 
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The part I don't get about all of this is why people feel Jamie can just all of a sudden give Hornacek 3 million a year when he said Fred's last deal was the best he could do.

Exactly. Same reason that the next football coach will probably be a $1.5m guy.
 
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cloneteach

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If the most we can give a coach is 2.6 million, then that's a problem. No way we'll be able to keep any coach that's successful here with that kind of budget.


The kind of budget that allows to pay a basketball coach a Top 20 salary?
 

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If the most we can give a coach is 2.6 million, then that's a problem. No way we'll be able to keep any coach that's successful here with that kind of budget.

Yeah, Wichita State can swing $3 million, but we can't? The only thing I can imagine is that they're wanting to keep their reserves open for a football contingency plan. I'd rather hire ten up and comers in a row there and spend my money on basketball, as a high level of success there is much, much, much more realistic.
 

guacamole7

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The part I don't get about all of this is why people feel Jamie can just all of a sudden give Hornacek 3 million a year when he said Fred's last deal was the best he could do.

Also consider that it was a 10 year deal. We could probably go above 2.6 with a shorter duration like 4 years.
 
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The facts are that we have a small athletic budget. The fans & supporters are really the only ones that can change that. We don't have a law school, medical school or oil money. Our Alums probably aren't as affluent as other schools. Cold truth.
 

guacamole7

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Yeah, Wichita State can swing $3 million, but we can't? The only thing I can imagine is that they're wanting to keep their reserves open for a football contingency plan. I'd rather hire ten up and comers in a row there and spend my money on basketball, as a high level of success there is much, much, much more realistic.

They have a wealthy donor, Koch. Not a good comparison by any stretch.