Lily Hansford Enters The Tranfer Portal

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She averaged 17 mpg in 2023-24 for a superior Oregon St team while shooting 44% from the arc.

At ISU, she averaged 10 mpg for a worse team and shot 20% from the arc.

She can still be a rotation player next season for a high major team with the right coaching fit that will reinstate her confidence.
She should just transfer back to Oregon St. and finish her degree
 

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My "insider" says Lily really wanted to attend the U (Miami) with the Cavinder twins (last offseason) and only selected ISU at the urging of her father. Good luck Lily...
If she cant find her shot in Ames good luck in South Beach..
 

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Yeah, she really regressed under ISU’s coaching after having P5 success for a very good Oregon State team. Still think she is a P5 talent but she will be playing for a real good HC and program at Green Bay.
I don't think coaching had much to do with her not being able to hit the broad side of a barn from deep. They gave her far more chances than she might have deserved…mainly due to what she could provide defensively.
 

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Lily got every opportunity to thrive at Iowa State. Kelsey was treated fairly by the staff. Lexi left for better educational opportunities. Maggie was injured, so her minutes were reduced. Most of our transfers are grad school related. :jimlad:

The fact is CBF isn’t for everyone. Some like playing for him. Some do not.

I hope Lily lights it up at GB. She seemed to be a great teammate despite it being a tough year for her.
 

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I don't think coaching had much to do with her not being able to hit the broad side of a barn from deep. They gave her far more chances than she might have deserved…mainly due to what she could provide defensively.
There was a glaring confidence issue with her and that is the staff’s job to to help resolve, especially one that lasted all season long after her success at Oregon State.
 

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Yeah, she really regressed under ISU’s coaching after having P5 success for a very good Oregon State team. Still think she is a P5 talent but she will be playing for a real good HC and program at Green Bay.
She scored 5 ppg at Oregon State. She got the yips here and even after having a game of good shooting she couldn’t repeat.
 

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She scored 5 ppg at Oregon State. She got the yips here and even after having a game of good shooting she couldn’t repeat.
She shot over 40% from the arc at Oregon St in 2023-24 and was in their rotation for an Elite 8 team. She was clearly a HM level player and there were valid reasons why ISU recruited her.

Completely dismissing the ISU staff's role in her season-long decline as some here are doing is highly flawed.
 

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She shot over 40% from the arc at Oregon St in 2023-24 and was in their rotation for an Elite 8 team. She was clearly a HM level player and there were valid reasons why ISU recruited her.

Completely dismissing the ISU staff's role in her season-long decline as some here are doing is highly flawed.
Lily has (had?) one high major skill, three point shooting. She came to Ames and couldn't hit a shot. Outside of the one game against UCF, she was 6-42 from three. When you're struggling that bad with the one skill set that carries almost all your on court value, you become unplayable. That's not the coaching staff's fault exactly.
 

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There was a glaring confidence issue with her and that is the staff’s job to to help resolve, especially one that lasted all season long after her success at Oregon State.
I really liked Lily; she seems to have a great attitude and appeared to be a great teammate. It appeared to me she got many playing opportunities to regain confidence but couldn't do it. What else could the coaching staff have done???
 

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There was a glaring confidence issue with her and that is the staff’s job to to help resolve, especially one that lasted all season long after her success at Oregon State.
What more could the staff have done? They gave her numerous chances on the floor with playing time. Sometimes players just lose their touch shooting and there is not much a coach can do except let them play. And then they have to decide how much playing time you can afford to have a player on the court who is not getting you any points.

edit: I hope she finds success at GB as I thought she was an asset at times on defense with her length but just could not be a consistent scorer.
 
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Lily has (had?) one high major skill, three point shooting. She came to Ames and couldn't hit a shot. Outside of the one game against UCF, she was 6-42 from three. When you're struggling that bad with the one skill set that carries almost all your on court value, you become unplayable. That's not the coaching staff's fault exactly.
I actually thought we put too much emphasis on her three point shooting. Her length offered other benefits when she was on the floor. I thought she was very effective at feeding Audi in the post. Her length allowed her, much like Addy to pass over the defender into the post. Her length also seemed to be an asset on defense. I also thought she had a good understanding of spacing and ball movement. Unfortunately, her shooting never came around and led to her getting less and less minutes.

The staff really struggled to find any consistent rotation beyond the Emily, Addy, AJ, and Audi. Minutes per game changed often. This was in part because no players other than Kelsey really made the most of their opportunities.
 
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I actually thought we put too much emphasis on her three point shooting. Her length offered other benefits when she was on the floor. I thought she was very effective at feeding Audi in the post. Her length allowed her, much like Addy to pass over the defender into the post. Her length also seemed to be an asset on defense. I also thought she had a good understanding of spacing and ball movement. Unfortunately, her shooting never came around and led to her getting less and less minutes.

The staff really struggled to find any consistent rotation beyond the Emily, Addy, AJ, and Audi. Minutes per game changed often.
Agree. Along with her length she was also quick enough to go for the offensive rebound and still get back in position on D.

Unfortunately, 35% of her total season points was that single game against UCF. She never even scored 5 points in any other game, that is too bad to be allowed to play.
DateOppMINPTSREBASTSTLBLKTOFGFG %3Pt ATT3P %
Thu 11/14vs STMN STMNW
80-47
140100010-20.00-20.00-00.00
Sun 11/10vs SOU SOUW
84-56
120201210-30.00-30.00-00.00
Thu 11/7vs INST INSTW
64-42
160100110-20.00-20.00-00.01
Mon 11/4vs CHST CHSTW
96-56
160211100-40.00-40.00-00.00

But look at these stats vs real stinkers of teams and say she deserved to get more time.
 

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She shot over 40% from the arc at Oregon St in 2023-24 and was in their rotation for an Elite 8 team. She was clearly a HM level player and there were valid reasons why ISU recruited her.

Completely dismissing the ISU staff's role in her season-long decline as some here are doing is highly flawed.
She averaged a whopping 5ppg at OSU and one season doesn’t make them a career sharpshooter. As a freshman she shot 35% from deep on about as many attempts as she put up at ISU. In her three seasons, she is closer to being an average at best three point shot…nine makes were the difference between two of the years sandwiched around one very good year.

Junior 10/52

Sophomore 48/106

Freshman 19/54

overall 77/212
Her overall average is just where she started…36%. So what is her likely outcome? Probably around a 35% shooter. Both this year and last year could be considered abnormal. Hopefully next year will give her an opportunity to settle back in and show this year was actually an abnormality.

As for this year, it wasn’t a season long decline…she never started at a good level at ISU. No one dismisses the staff's role, but saying it’s their fault she couldn’t hit worth beans is extremely flawed. Sometimes the onus is on the one doing the shooting and finding their way out of a slump. Whether it’s extra work, getting help, seeing a shrink…
 

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She shot over 40% from the arc at Oregon St in 2023-24 and was in their rotation for an Elite 8 team. She was clearly a HM level player and there were valid reasons why ISU recruited her.

Completely dismissing the ISU staff's role in her season-long decline as some here are doing is highly flawed.

The real problem is that Hilton is just too big for basketball.
 

cykadelic2

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She averaged a whopping 5ppg at OSU and one season doesn’t make them a career sharpshooter. As a freshman she shot 35% from deep on about as many attempts as she put up at ISU. In her three seasons, she is closer to being an average at best three point shot…nine makes were the difference between two of the years sandwiched around one very good year.

Junior 10/52

Sophomore 48/106

Freshman 19/54

overall 77/212
Her overall average is just where she started…36%. So what is her likely outcome? Probably around a 35% shooter. Both this year and last year could be considered abnormal. Hopefully next year will give her an opportunity to settle back in and show this year was actually an abnormality.

As for this year, it wasn’t a season long decline…she never started at a good level at ISU. No one dismisses the staff's role, but saying it’s their fault she couldn’t hit worth beans is extremely flawed. Sometimes the onus is on the one doing the shooting and finding their way out of a slump. Whether it’s extra work, getting help, seeing a shrink…
I didn't suggest the staff was completely at fault for her season-long slump but as previously posted, they played a role IMO in not being able to facilitate her snapping out of it. Credit the staff when they help a player improve and when they significantly regress like Hansford, the staff isn't partially responsible?
 

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