Kirk Ferentz getting sued for being racist

[Statefan10]

Lol oh my God

Didn't even apologize for the culture he built. He apologized for how the players felt. No responsibility.

 

[Clonefan32]

I would suggest not spending much more effort on this. They know their fan base, and they know they don't care if the program was racist. So why would they make changes? It is what it is.

 

[TrianglePlace]

I still can’t get past Barta lying to investigators making a report where the results were supposed to go to him. Why lie if the report is supposedly for you? It is pretty clear that this report was intended to be a complete whitewash (pun very much intended) for the media, with no actual concern for the people involved.

It's been made clear on this board that this wasn't an investigation, it was a review.

 

[cdface]

So again, you missed the mark, per usual. There are 60+ allegations against the program and only a handful MIGHT BE sensationalized. Even if it's say 50% (which it's not), that still leaves 30+ allegations. You're gonna sit there and say you're good with that lol?

Same thing happens with rape claims. Just because a tiny few claims end up being false, it makes some people distrust ANY claim by default. I'm going to guess there's a lot of Venn diagram overlap between these two types of folks.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

LOL that may as well have been hand written by Kirk/Barta. I agree that it is comedic that they only spoke to 29 former athletes, with more than double that amount speaking out on this publicly and hundreds more to choose from.

The "conclusion"/recommendations were as predicted from the start. Blame Doyle, call it a bullying and demeaning culture rather than racist and discriminatory, absolve KF of blame.

What a farce. Won't go over well national I'd bet. Now we see if there are other's who have been biding their time waiting for this sham to wrap up.

Unfortunately on a national scale, no one will bat an eye. It's Iowa, not Ohio State, Penn State, or Michigan. Despite a little national press on ESPN, CBS Sports etc, I'd really be surprised if the casual college football fan is even aware of it. Most of the Iowa fans I know are unaware or at least oblivious to it. Everybody gets off the hook. Damn shame

 

[TrianglePlace]

Tyler Barnes with the first statement from an Iowa staff member following this review.

Please tell me you don't actually think that is Barnes, do you?

 

[Statefan10]

Proud to be a Cyclone and proud to have the man we do coaching our young athletes.

 

[Clonefan32]

Gary Barta told them he just heard about the drug testing disparities in June 2020. We know for a fact that isn’t true. They aren’t even being honest to the reviewers he is paying to do the review. What and absolute joke, if anybody cites this as some kind of evidence they are pathetic.

I think the biggest winner today was Robert T. Green.

I'm going to guess he and his clients won't be content to leave it alone. And it certainly looks like there are plenty of discrepancies between what's been said and what's in the various reports to formulate a cause of action.

 

[Statefan10]

Please tell me you don't actually think that is Barnes, do you?

I really don't, was just making a joke.

 

[Clonefan32]

Unfortunately on a national scale, no one will bat an eye. It's Iowa, not Ohio State, Penn State, or Michigan. Despite a little national press on ESPN, CBS Sports etc, I'd really be surprised if the casual college football fan is even aware of it. Most of the Iowa fans I know are unaware or at least oblivious to it. Everybody gets off the hook. Damn shame

My guess is that any damage to be done to their reputation has already been done. It was not going to be effected by firing Kirk, or the outcome of this review. Those that care know, those that don't maybe read a headline and moved on.

 

[TrianglePlace]

Didn't even apologize for the culture he built. He apologized for how the players felt. No responsibility.

He literally said "our culture" caused black athletes to feel they were unable to show up as their authentic selves.

 

[mj4cy]

He literally said "our culture" caused black athletes to feel they were unable to show up as their authentic selves.

Couldn't be more genuine.....not.

Seriously you're not fooling anyone. Iowa only cares about this because they have to now. Their response has proven as such.

 

[Statefan10]

He literally said "our culture" caused black athletes to feel they were unable to show up as their authentic selves.

He said this review brought them face to face with the allegations that our culture that demanded uniformity caused black athletes to feel they were unable to show up as their authentic selves. That's the most cop out apologetic statement I've ever heard.

 

[Crookedhatkid]

It's been made clear on this board that this wasn't an investigation, it was a review.

Okay. Please substitute in “reviewers” then give me your opinion on that statement.

 

[Crookedhatkid]

Kirk speaks

Why did he capitalize “Review”?

 

[IlliniCy]

I can think of no more appropriate word to use than 'whitewash'.

a: to gloss over or cover up (something, such as a record of criminal behavior)

b: to exonerate (someone) by means of a perfunctory investigation or through biased presentation of data

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whitewash

 

[GingerNinja]

I would suggest not spending much more effort on this. They know their fan base, and they know they don't care if the program was racist. So why would they make changes? It is what it is.

I care because it makes the whole state of Iowa look bad. There are plenty of people that don't know the difference between Iowa State and Iowa, and I don't want to get lumped in with the people enabling everything that's come out from IC. Here's hoping Robert T. Green is locked and loaded with a response and forces Barta's hand.

 

[Clonefan32]

He said this review brought them face to face with the allegations that our culture that demanded uniformity caused black athletes to feel they were unable to show up as their authentic selves. That's the most cop out apologetic statement I've ever heard.

Taking off my Cyclone-colored-glasses real quick, I do waffle a bit on Kirk's culpability here. It does look to me like black players had a hard time citing a ton of concrete examples of mistreatment. From what I gather, it's more of a cumulative effect of policies and rules that were racist in their effect.

Those situations can be hard. I think we've all had instances in life where you can't point to any great, big smoking-gun type moments, but rather it's a cumulative effect. Honestly, I'd guess that people have gone to Kirk and have been unable to produce real damning evidence of mistreatment, other than policies that technically applied to everyone, but were obviously disparate in their effect.

Seems to me like it's a situation of "what's understood need not be spoken". There was an understanding you couldn't be yourself, but maybe it wasn't always spoken. And I think Kirk probably leaned on the "it's not spoken" part and ignored the "what's understood" part.

But at the end of the day, you are paid several millions of dollars to run this program, and like any well paid executive the buck should stop at you. People have been fired for much, much less.

 

[Statefan10]

Why did he capitalize “Review”?

Well there's no way he typed that, but I'm assuming they're capitalizing it for formality reasons.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Taking off my Cyclone-colored-glasses real quick, I do waffle a bit on Kirk's culpability here. It does look to me like black players had a hard time citing a ton of concrete examples of mistreatment. From what I gather, it's more of a cumulative effect of policies and rules that were racist in their effect.

Those situations can be hard. I think we've all had instances in life where you can't point to any great, big smoking-gun type moments, but rather it's a cumulative effect. Honestly, I'd guess that people have gone to Kirk and have been unable to produce real damning evidence of mistreatment, other than policies that technically applied to everyone, but were obviously disparate in their effect.

Seems to me like it's a situation of "what's understood need not be spoken". There was an understanding you couldn't be yourself, but maybe it wasn't always spoken. And I think Kirk probably leaned on the "it's not spoken" part and ignored the "what's understood" part.

But at the end of the day, you are paid several millions of dollars to run this program, and like any well paid executive the buck should stop at you. People have been fired for much, much less.

Then why did Doyle get fired?