John Walters calling out DSM media

[CyFan61]

My Friday afternoon project:

Because I was curious, I went through and calculated the amount of people in each state per BCS-conference school using 2010 Census data. I had a hunch that Iowa would be very low and I was right. For example the population of Iowa is roughly 3.0 million and we have 2 BCS-conference schools so our number is 1.5 million. Here's the data that I came up with:

State, Population in millions after being divided by number of BCS-conference schools, # of those schools in that state (unless 1)

Iowa 1.5 (2)
Kansas 1.5 (2)
Mississippi 1.5 (2)
Nebraska 1.8
Oklahoma 1.9 (2)
Oregon 1.9 (2)
West Virginia 1.9
Indiana 2.2 (3)*
Kentucky 2.2 (2)
South Carolina 2.3 (2)
Alabama 2.4 (2)
North Carolina 2.4 (4)
Utah 2.8
Arizona 3.2 (2)
Tennessee 3.2 (2)
Washington 3.4 (2)
Connecticut 3.6
Virginia 4.0 (2)
Louisiana 4.5
Florida 4.7 (4)
Georgia 4.9 (2)
Michigan 5.0 (2)
Minnesota 5.3
Wisconsin 5.7
Maryland 5.8
Ohio 5.8 (2)
Missouri 6.0
Texas 6.3 (4)**
Illinois 6.4 (2)
Pennsylvania 6.4 (2)
Massachusetts 6.5
New Jersey 8.8
California 9.3 (4)
New York 19.4

*Includes Notre Dame.

**Once TCU is in the Big East this will be 5.0 million per BCS-conference school in Texas.

Moral of the story: We should consider ourselves very lucky to have 2 BCS conference programs in our state. If for some reason one of them were to leave the BCS ranks, we would be more towards the middle but still on the lower side. So it absolutely is good for Iowa to have 2 schools in the BCS, and we should be grateful.

 

[agcy68]

Just because some radio personality is of the opinion ISU is in trouble if the Big 12 ends, does not mean they are cheering for the demise of the Cyclones, it is only their opinion. I don't really understand why it is the duty of people whose job it is to have opinions, i.e. talk radio guys, to promote ISU and say everything is going to be allright, dont worry ISU is going to be in a great position, etc. It is not their job to do that, it is their job to have an opinion and it is not always going to match up with an ISU fans opinion. I think maybe some people on air don't understand the implications for ISU and the state if they were to go to a lesser conference but what do you expect from talk radio?

John's comments were that some local sports people were actually cheering for the demise of ISU football. Not my interpretation, his comments.

 

[CycloneErik]

Why do radio guys have to wear uniforms?

Duh. So they sound right.

 

[Senolcyc]

Not sure signal reaches Ames for 1460 or 1700.

I'm not sure their signals reach their own front lobbies. The radio groups give their most wretched frequencies to sports talk because it's such a non-important part of the business. 1700 is just this side of "breaker breaker 1-9".

 

[Cyhart]

My Friday afternoon project:

Because I was curious, I went through and calculated the amount of people in each state per BCS-conference school using 2010 Census data. I had a hunch that Iowa would be very low and I was right. For example the population of Iowa is roughly 3.0 million and we have 2 BCS-conference schools so our number is 1.5 million. Here's the data that I came up with:

State, Population in millions after being divided by number of BCS-conference schools, # of those schools in that state (unless 1)

Iowa 1.5 (2)
Kansas 1.5 (2)
Mississippi 1.5 (2)
Nebraska 1.8
Oklahoma 1.9 (2)
Oregon 1.9 (2)
West Virginia 1.9
Indiana 2.2 (3)*
Kentucky 2.2 (2)
South Carolina 2.3 (2)
Alabama 2.4 (2)
North Carolina 2.4 (4)
Utah 2.8
Arizona 3.2 (2)
Tennessee 3.2 (2)
Washington 3.4 (2)
Connecticut 3.6
Virginia 4.0 (2)
Louisiana 4.5
Florida 4.7 (4)
Georgia 4.9 (2)
Michigan 5.0 (2)
Minnesota 5.3
Wisconsin 5.7
Maryland 5.8
Ohio 5.8 (2)
Missouri 6.0
Texas 6.3 (4)**
Illinois 6.4 (2)
Pennsylvania 6.4 (2)
Massachusetts 6.5
New Jersey 8.8
California 9.3 (4)
New York 19.4

*Includes Notre Dame.

**Once TCU is in the Big East this will be 5.0 million per BCS-conference school in Texas.

Moral of the story: We should consider ourselves very lucky to have 2 BCS conference programs in our state. If for some reason one of them were to leave the BCS ranks, we would be more towards the middle but still on the lower side. So it absolutely is good for Iowa to have 2 schools in the BCS, and we should be grateful.

Nice!
And when you look at those at the top, Kansas-Same conference. Mississippi- Same conference. Oklahoma-same conference. Oregon-same conference.
Iowa though- Different conferences! We are very unique considering our size.

 

[clonedude]

Here in eastern Iowa, on the new Balbinot and Brommelkamp show on AM1600, they just LOVE talking about the impending doom of the Big 12 conference. They don't admit it up front that they would love it if ISU fell to the MAC, but they do love talking about the Big 12 dying out.

You get the hint, let's put it that way.

 

[fatkid1974]

I can't pull 1460 in western IA, but I have been forced to listen to the 590 chuckleheads this week because my podcast is on vacation. They actually have an infatuation with the big XII, they seem to dedicate half their show bashing it and making fun of where ISU will end up if it folds. They definitely don't let the facts get in the way of their comments. Anyone that thinks there is no ISU/Iowa bias needs a reality check, before the internet days, I'd search high and low for an ISU score/recap. Very frustrating. I hope every print paper in the state folds, starting off with the rag.

 

[Madclone1]

Just because some radio personality is of the opinion ISU is in trouble if the Big 12 ends, does not mean they are cheering for the demise of the Cyclones, it is only their opinion. I don't really understand why it is the duty of people whose job it is to have opinions, i.e. talk radio guys, to promote ISU and say everything is going to be allright, dont worry ISU is going to be in a great position, etc. It is not their job to do that, it is their job to have an opinion and it is not always going to match up with an ISU fans opinion. I think maybe some people on air don't understand the implications for ISU and the state if they were to go to a lesser conference but what do you expect from talk radio?

So tell me . . when has ANYONE on this board asked those idiots to promote ISU?

QUESTION for you: Why do you instinctively blame ISU fans for complaining about an OBVIOUS fact . . . they are hawk homers.

 

[digZ]

In other news, the sky is blue! :shocked:...





In all seriousness, as Cyclone fans all we ask is our fair share of coverage. Sure take time to discuss what would happen if the Big XII dissolves and ISU doesn't have a place to land, it's definitely a valid scenario, but it's your job as a journalist(using that term loosely considering how they handle this coverage) to share the other side of the coin. What if the Big 12 does the likely and adds 1-3 decent teams and survives with a solid core and crisis averted. All they are doing is pandering to the majority to please the ISU hating Hawk fans, and trying to rile up Cyclone fans to call in and *****. In the end don't listen to get your message accross, I'll get my coverage from national media outlets, who despite thinking ISU is just some small school who doesn't mean anything, at least they give us SOME favorable coverage.

 

[Trice]

Just got back from a business trip and had the good fortune to hear J Walt on the Murph and Andy show. I didn't realize that he tweeted this a few hours ago:

"Some in Iowa media practically cheering for the Big 12 to blow up. IA HS kids get opportunity in 2 BCS conferences. You want that to change?"

Pretty big confirmation of our concerns of the local media and accusation of their loyalties. In the interview, he even commented how some of the media are uofi fans at heart and cheer against ISU.

John is absolutely dead on in his critique. I tweeted about 14 months ago, who will be more disappointed that the Big 12 was saved - the PAC-10/12 or Iowa media who have to continue to feign interest in Iowa State?

Nobody's saying the media isn't supposed to talk about the situation, or the bad things that might result. But the tone at times borders on near-giddiness. Remember Giggles last summer? I mean, it was nauseating. There was no "practically" about it as JW said...they WERE cheering for ISU's demise.

If Iowa were in a precarious spot for any reason (conference trouble, NCAA violations, whatever) what do you think local media would be doing? Circling the wagons! But for some reason because we pull in 15K less for a football game we're persona non grata. It's truly mystifying.

 

[CyBobby]

When I don't like something, I don't listen to it.

Well then I don't think you will be listening to Martha ty-relle any time soon...good ol martha had the guts to tell jamie pollard to call the mac or the wac conference the other day...

Then he brings it up to Blair Kerkhoff of the kcity star and Blair using uncommonly good common sense says something like..."Why contact any lesser conference until the Big 12 goes down, because those lower level conferences will always be available to Iowa State and Kansas State"... (and whomever else can't find a home aka baylor)

Bingo Baby good ol Blair nailed Martha and the good ol mouth of the midwest didnt have a rebuttal argument for blair kerkoff....

 

[VeloClone]

Well then I don't think you will be listening to Martha ty-relle any time soon...good ol martha had the guts to tell jamie pollard to call the mac or the wac conference the other day...

Then he brings it up to Blair Kerkhoff of the kcity star and Blair using uncommonly good common sense says something like..."Why contact any lesser conference until the Big 12 goes down, because those lower level conferences will always be available to Iowa State and Kansas State"... (and whomever else can't find a home aka baylor)

Bingo Baby good ol Blair nailed Martha and the good ol mouth of the midwest didnt have a rebuttal argument for blair kerkoff....

I Luved it...I Luved it...I Luved it.....

Please don't. That makes you sound like that idiot, Zabel.

 

[CyLoboClone]

I didn't read past pg1, but the post about iowa being the only state with a big 10 and big 12 school is why we are in this mess. The other schools are in the same boats together. Obviously this obvious post is obvious, but man- if only we had a kicker not named yelk... We could have a little with which to trumpet.

 

[VeloClone]

I didn't read past pg1, but the post about iowa being the only state with a big 10 and big 12 school is why we are in this mess. The other schools are in the same boats together. Obviously this obvious post is obvious, but man- if only we had a kicker not named yelk... We could have a little with which to trumpet.

Please explain. Alabama bowl game??

 

[Boxerdaddy]

Does John Walters have a twitter account?

 

[zach]

When I don't like something, I don't listen to it.

I haven't listen to the local sports stations in months...even before giggles left...and thank you by the way for leaving. It is like listen to the same thing time and time again with the same dialog, just worded differently. I say LISTEN TO ROCK-N-ROLL instead! Saying central Iowa has Sports Radio Talent is an like saying the Canadians are a Super Power... certainly a contradiction in statements.

Z

 

[Three4Cy]

Does John Walters have a twitter account?

Twitter

 

[Sy4Cy]

How many other states have 2 or more schools in different BCS conferences? Can't be that many.

Iowa (Big 10) and ISU (Big 12)
Clemson (ACC) and South Carolina (SEC)
Kentucky (SEC) and Louisville (BE)
Texas/Tech/Baylor (Big 12) and A&M* (SEC)*
Penn State (Big 10) and Pitt (BE)
Ohio State (Big 10) and Cinci (BE)
Florida (SEC) and Florida State/Miami (ACC)

Edit: OK, I guess there are more than I originally thought.

How many states with a population in the same range of Iowa have more than one school in a BCS conference? There are a couple but they mostly are in the same conference. To have both schools with a home game brings in a huge revenue boost to the states economy. How many people actually travel to away games when their school is in a lower tier division 1 or worse and FCS conference is alot smaller than I would imagine it is for a Big 12 or Big 10 school. As for the media just think about it, Sound Off alone probably would not survive if ISU were to drop down. While I understand that they need to report on all that is going on with the Big 12 it is just asinine if there are media members rooting for ISU to drop down.

 

[Cyhart]

I haven't listen to the local sports stations in months...even before giggles left...and thank you by the way for leaving. It is like listen to the same thing time and time again with the same dialog, just worded differently. I say LISTEN TO ROCK-N-ROLL instead! Saying central Iowa has Sports Radio Talent is an like saying the Canadians are a Super Power... certainly a contradiction in statements.

Z

Love him or hate him, Deace is pretty talented. Period.
Murph and Andy are also good. They don't always stick to the topics that I enjoy, but they are good on the radio nonetheless.

 

[everyyard]

You think the iowa media ignores us now? Wait for those epic isu vs cincy games. They are gonna love those.