I'll add that if they had beaten Texas Tech, I would be cheering for them to get to 6 wins and a bowl game.
they aren't getting in if they lose to either us or K-State. they have to be 13-0 to make it.The other flaw in this argument is TCU still has to beat K-State or Texas in the Big12 Championship game. I don't think either school is just going to roll over.
Plus a 1 loss TCU still has a path to the CFB Playoff. Although a loss to a 5-7 ISU might be a big negative. But IMO no worse than if they beat ISU and then lose to KSU or Texas.
But it would not surprise me if USC and Clemson don't lose at least 1 more game. If that's the case and Georgia wins the SEC CG, then I could see the playoff being:
Georgia (Undefeated)
Ohio State
Michigan
TCU (1 Loss)
This is where the Big12 perception problem and rankings come into play, as long as USC/Clemson/OSU/Michigan have only one loss they would be higher then TCU. TCU needs chaos or to remain undefeated to get in. I don't think it would happen but if TCU lost the championship game there is a very small possibility that they could get jumped by a two loss team.The other flaw in this argument is TCU still has to beat K-State or Texas in the Big12 Championship game. I don't think either school is just going to roll over.
Plus a 1 loss TCU still has a path to the CFB Playoff. Although a loss to a 5-7 ISU might be a big negative. But IMO no worse than if they beat ISU and then lose to KSU or Texas.
But it would not surprise me if USC and Clemson don't lose at least 1 more game. If that's the case and Georgia wins the SEC CG, then I could see the playoff being:
Georgia (Undefeated)
Ohio State
Michigan
TCU (1 Loss)
they aren't getting in if they lose to either us or K-State. they have to be 13-0 to make it.
This right here. I never hope ISU loses in anything. If they do, I hope TCU wins it all.Of course I will be rooting for ISU to take down TCU. However, if they don't I will be a fan of TCU winning the conference and making the playoff.
I want to believe the committee would do that as much as you do, but it just won't happen.Why does TCU have to be 13-0?
USC is 10-1 and still plays ND and Pac12 Championship Game
Clemson is 10-1 and still plays S Carolina and N Carolina
Why would those 2 schools at 11-2 be a better choice than a 12-1 TCU? Especially if TCU wins the Big12 CCG?
If Georgia beats LSU, then LSU is a 3 loss team. Tennessee is a 2 loss team and won't have the SEC CG has a 13th data point. Didn't that hurt the Big12 back in the day.
If Bama is still in consideration, the Committee is taking bribes!!
With all of the bad press that had been out there lately about the Big 12 and how we were doomed with UT/OU leaving-
Yes- I want TCU to beat us and make the CFB for the betterment of the conference.
TCU has to win both remaining games - no other way. The committee has shown their biases before and will continue to do so.My first thought is that TCU is going to get sodomized by the committee one way or another; they won't be allowed in the CFP even if undefeated.
BUT
No undefeated conference champ has even been excluded. So maybe I am overstating the corruption.
That said, I still want ISU to win. TCU will be out in favor of Clemson and USC, to be sure. But TCU could still lose to KSU in the CCG. Anything ISU can build on is a good thing.
I do not think ISU will win, however.
Are you sure TCU will be 4 in the rankings tonight? They eked out another one score win over a non ranked team. USC beat a ranked team on the road. I could see them jumping TCU.I want to believe the committee would do that as much as you do, but it just won't happen.
TCU will be 4th in tonight's rankings- losing to Iowa State on Saturday would put them too far back to make up the ground.
What WOULD help them is Ohio St beating Michigan b/c Michigans Non-Conf is trash.
I also don't see Clemson and USC both losing - USC is more likely to lose than Clemson with the remaining schedule.
I've been to TCU. Their home is no advantage for them and I believe our team plays better on the road. They don't have to listen to the constant booing.There is no way in hell we are beating TCU @ TCU.
Like UofM. Will they be top 4? Of course they will.Are you sure TCU will be 4 in the rankings tonight? They eked out another one score win over a non ranked team. USC beat a ranked team on the road. I could see them jumping