JAY JORDAN: 2019 In-Depth Spring Football Primer

RealisticCy

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Goodness, that is a well written article. Echo his statement about the OL; if they can finally get some push in the run game, this team could be special.
 

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A very informative article to be sure.

What bums me out about this team is the lack of quality O-linemen. You’d think in year 4 this wouldn’t be an issue. And this is no criticism of CMC, he’s done an amazing job thus far, but rather a testament to how difficult it is to recruit and coach up this particular position.

Here’s to finding a handful of diamonds in the rough.
 

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A very informative article to be sure.

What bums me out about this team is the lack of quality O-linemen. You’d think in year 4 this wouldn’t be an issue. And this is no criticism of CMC, he’s done an amazing job thus far, but rather a testament to how difficult it is to recruit and coach up this particular position.

Here’s to finding a handful of diamonds in the rough.

Weirdly this coaching staff was able to put together a borderline elite defensive line in almost no time at all, yet the "easier" position to recruit has fallen flat this far. Hopefully we see improvement in the run blocking. Cant get much worse.
 

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Jay Jordan is always a great read. Always honest and direct.

I'd probably read his dissection of a cake recipe.
 
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A very informative article to be sure.

What bums me out about this team is the lack of quality O-linemen. You’d think in year 4 this wouldn’t be an issue. And this is no criticism of CMC, he’s done an amazing job thus far, but rather a testament to how difficult it is to recruit and coach up this particular position.

Here’s to finding a handful of diamonds in the rough.
Ya and we live in Hoggy Molly farmland. Of course with Nebby and Iowa so close it's hard to compete with them recruiting wise, but man you'd think it wouldn't be so hard to get a good line here. Look at NDSU.
 
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The Oline depth should be better. I would expect the redshirts to push for more playing time each week if a returner is not getting it done. It would be nice to engineer a few beatdowns to get the younger guys as much playing time as possible.
 
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Jay Jordan is articulate, informed, logical and opinionated just like everybody else. And a good read for thoughtful debate. I always chuckle when comments are made by him or anyone else about the "bad" offensive line play at ISU and the inability of ISU to historically recruit "good" offensive linemen. I played offensive line in college and my son played defensive line in college so I have some perspective to offer. The main difference between the two positions is reaction and athleticism. D-line must be quick and seek the ball on instinct. O-line have to analyze a called play assignment and make adjustments in mili-seconds. The basic difference is the O-line absolutely must have trained repeatedly so that the adjustment that they are required to do is done automatically without hesitation. My head coach was an offensive lineman in the NFL and his favorite quote to we O-line was "He who hesitates, is lost". So true, the game is won in the trenches and if the D-line gains the advantage with the first step, it's all over. The secret to successful O-line development is repetitive practice of assignment until there is no hesitation under any alignment or unanticipated movement of D-line. There is a reason that Ferentz at Iowa routinely sends O-linemen to the NFL. He played O-line, coached O-line in the NFL and is a master at coaching up his in-state Iowa recruits into NFL caliber players. Generally speaking, he takes local talent and makes it happen. Nebraska did the same thing in their dominant run, local Nebraska recruits that were developed. I contend that the talent that is on campus now is fully capable. It has been done before. McCarney had a running back that rushed for two thousand yards twice and that does not happen without a good offensive line. It is not brain surgery. All that has to happen is to give a good running back a chance to get off the line of scrimmage and let his ability manifest itself past the line of scrimmage. Troy Davis, David Montgomery, Ennis Haywood, Dwayne Crutchfield, and others are examples. Physically the current O-line is more than capable, the question is whether the offensive scheme and offensive line coach can bring it all together successfully. I think money spent on hiring a good offensive line coach by the head coach is key to success.
 

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I think money spent on hiring a good offensive line coach by the head coach is key to success.

Maybe Jeff Myers will be great someday, but the reality is he's a baby-faced kid heading into his 2nd season ever at his post. Gotta believe Campbell spent a lot of time holding his hand last fall. Hopefully Manning's return will help him along as well.
 

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I don't have much confidence in the offensive line going into next year. Montgomery was getting hit in the backfield on about half of his runs last year. There are some younger guys with promise but they likely are a year away from significant playing time. Our lineman seemed to whiff on a lot of blocks.
 
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Maybe Jeff Myers will be great someday, but the reality is he's a baby-faced kid heading into his 2nd season ever at his post. Gotta believe Campbell spent a lot of time holding his hand last fall. Hopefully Manning's return will help him along as well.
Didn't Meyers have a stint in the Pro's on top of being one of Campbell's players at Toledo? I doubt he is lacking in knowledge. I hate when people knock someone for being young without really knowing the whole truth is all.
 
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There is a reason that Ferentz at Iowa routinely sends O-linemen to the NFL. He played O-line, coached O-line in the NFL and is a master at coaching up his in-state Iowa recruits into NFL caliber players.

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I think money spent on hiring a good offensive line coach by the head coach is key to success.
I had to smile when I read this. When Hayden Fry originally hired Ferentz as his full time OL Coach, his resume was that he’d been a grad assistant at Pitt, IIRC. Helping coach the OL.

Now...why does that sound familiar?
 

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So about the O line. I think there is room for improvement of course, but Jay says there is only 1 guy on the starting 5 from last year that "There is only one of the returning lineman that I believe has demonstrated an ability to consistently play at that level." Newell was a freshman, good-jones has been all conference honorable mention 2 times at 2 different positions, Meeker was an honorable mention and knipfel was honorable mention last year and the coaching staff has raved about him. saying that these guys don't have the ability is way too harsh to them. I know there is a lot of honorable mentions on these lists but that is 3 out of 5 getting one along with 1 of the returning guys being a freshman. We do not need a team of first rounders to be a top team in the big 12.

As for next year I think downing will start. I think Ramos will get playing time at least if not end up starting. other than that I doubt we see any changes and I don't think that is a bad thing. We won 8 games and had a really fluky bowl game that would have made it 9 against a top team. The guys we have all all more seasoned now. They have played together for a full season. The fact is we have had a 1,000 yard rusher 3 of the last 4 years with the one year we didn't make it being the highest rushing total of the 4 but lanning took 500+ yards.

I guess the thing to me is yes the O line has room to improve, but if we had a top 20 OL we are talking playoff good. I honestly believe that. Maybe that is the difference is the expectation. Mine is I want to make the big 12 championship game. The rest would be gravy. We were a couple plays away from that happening last year with the "terrible" OL as so many people have labeled it.