Jamie Pollard preaches "Doomsday" about College Athletics and the NIL

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If the total number is 40 or less, ISU is in trouble, if the number is 25 per conference, than 50 total I would guess we are OK, but its nervous time, 60 total and ISU is in for sure. The biggest problem for ISU is that the BOR and EIU would just as soon we were one of the schools that did not meet the cut and makes EIU the only P2 school in the state.
Looking at size of budget ISU is ranked in the low 40s, but many schools are getting millions of support from the state or university, while ISU took in $1.8 million from student funds. Attendance we are in the 30's or so. It comes down to how many schools that want to make the switch over and how many can afford it.
It seems to be all in 2 conferences hands. I could see 24/ea. and have 4 pods of 6. If it's 24 then the SEC would need 8 and the Big would need 6. With the ACC, Big 12 and ND out there, that doesn't seem like very many spots. Maybe 28/ea. would be a better number.
 
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It seems to be all in 2 conferences hands. I could see 24/ea. and have 4 pods of 6. If it's 24 then the SEC would need 8 and the Big would need 6. With the ACC, Big 12 and ND out there, that doesn't seem like very many spots. Maybe 28/ea. would be a better number.
I agree but some teams that are currently in those conferences might want to drop down, thereby opening up extra spots.
 
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I agree but some teams that are currently in those conferences might want to drop down, thereby opening up extra spots.

LOL nobody is dropping down from the SEC and B1G if you're already collecting the check. The AD wants money if a winning record comes with it great if not somebody has to be the Washington Generals.
 

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It seems to be all in 2 conferences hands. I could see 24/ea. and have 4 pods of 6. If it's 24 then the SEC would need 8 and the Big would need 6. With the ACC, Big 12 and ND out there, that doesn't seem like very many spots. Maybe 28/ea. would be a better number.
This is who is likely ahead of us:

Independent (1): ND
ACC (12): NC, Duke, Virginia, FSU, Clemson, Miami, NC State, Duke, VA Tech, GA Tech, Stanford, Cal
Big 12 (5): Arizona, ASU, Utah, Colorado, Kansas

Total = 52 including Big 10/SEC

We have the edge over a lot of the above schools with our attendance and athletic success. But we are already in the Big 10's footprint, Iowa isn't a populous state, the SEC I don't think cares about the Midwest, and the Big 10 would like a Texas school. Thus, BC, Pitt, Louisville, Syracuse, BYU, WVU, Texas Tech, TCU, Ok State, or Houston would likely be ahead of us, as pains me to say.
 

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LOL nobody is dropping down from the SEC and B1G if you're already collecting the check. The AD wants money if a winning record comes with it great if not somebody has to be the Washington Generals.
If a superleague forms by pulling 20 teams from P2, the big checks wont be there for the left behinds. The big checks will go to the superleague.

Youre not replacing PSU, Michigan and OSU with Kansas, Cincy and ISU and have TV people just say "sure no problem". LOFL.

The leftbehinds would be on a equal footing w the B12 and ACC.
 

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Part of me hopes the SEC and B1G get everything they’ve ever dreamed of…. and it completely falls apart on them when nobody in the country outside of those two leagues gives a s**t anymore and quits watching.

I want SO bad for everyone to eventually realize that they all once had a great gig…. and they f**ked it all up because of nothing more than greed.

Don’t know if that will ever happen though…. unfortunately in this country it seems like greed always wins.
Greed's track record is pretty stellar, not just in this country, but everywhere, for pretty much all of human history. Betting against greed is almost always going to end up losing.

The supposed "great gig" that we once had, wasn't any different. If you're going to wax nostalgic, that's fine, but understand that the halcyon days only existed under a thin veil of plausible deniability.
 
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LOL nobody is dropping down from the SEC and B1G if you're already collecting the check. The AD wants money if a winning record comes with it great if not somebody has to be the Washington Generals.
You are probably correct, but if this new super league is formed, it would most likely be spun off from the conferences themselves. We are already seeing the fan bases of schools like EIU and others complaining that they have little to no chance of ever winning the conference now or even getting to the championship game. Schools like Vandy and a few others might not want to devote the resources to maintaining football. UCONN dropped down in football, Creighton eliminated it, so it does happen. It's not difficult to see schools like Maryland, Vandy, Duke and few others deciding to just play BB and move away from high dollar football programs, ISU may also be one of those
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I agree it's a long shot, but not impossible for some of these schools.
 

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That’s the thing the biggest spenders from University allocations are actually group of five schools trying to keep up. If Iowa State drops down a level to the MAC or Mountain West they will need even more University/State support to compete even with those schools. Or they could become UNI and play the Dakota schools. Logically a $10-20 million dollar investment from the State/University could save hundreds of millions of dollars in damage.
Just raise the sports betting tax. This isn't hard, it's not partisan, and nobody cares if DraftKings makes slightly less. I don't know why this hasn't been done already. I really hope someone in our AD is organizing with the Iowa City folks to get this done in the next session. Should have happened this session.

Honestly Kim Reynolds should call a special session to do it.
 
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Just raise the sports betting tax. This isn't hard, it's not partisan, and nobody cares if DraftKings makes slightly less. I don't know why this hasn't been done already. I really hope someone in our AD is organizing with the Iowa City folks to get this done in the next session. Should have happened this session.

Honestly Kim Reynolds should call a special session to do it.
The sports books are not making less, they will find a way to charge it through to the consumers.

As an avid sports gambler, I am in full support of a sports betting tax, so let me be clear on that.
 

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Just raise the sports betting tax. This isn't hard, it's not partisan, and nobody cares if DraftKings makes slightly less. I don't know why this hasn't been done already. I really hope someone in our AD is organizing with the Iowa City folks to get this done in the next session. Should have happened this session.

Honestly Kim Reynolds should call a special session to do it.
I've received some preliminary feedback from state legislators that this should not take precedent over funding roads and veterans, so work to be done. Any messaging to legislators is always helpful to increase awareness.
 

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Greed's track record is pretty stellar, not just in this country, but everywhere, for pretty much all of human history. Betting against greed is almost always going to end up losing.

The supposed "great gig" that we once had, wasn't any different. If you're going to wax nostalgic, that's fine, but understand that the halcyon days only existed under a thin veil of plausible deniability.

Why is it that every post of yours seem as someone trying to be too smart by half while lecturing a poly sci class.
 

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I've received some preliminary feedback from state legislators that this should not take precedent over funding roads and veterans, so work to be done. Any messaging to legislators is always helpful to increase awareness.

any work on them wanting to fund the university itself to a level we used to provide?
 

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I've received some preliminary feedback from state legislators that this should not take precedent over funding roads and veterans, so work to be done. Any messaging to legislators is always helpful to increase awareness.

Funding roads is a laughable cop-out. FY24 transportation funding in Iowa was right at $1.5B. The Road Use Tax Fund is over $1.6B.

$40-50M in sports betting tax revenue isn't moving that needle.
 

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Funding roads is a laughable cop-out. FY24 transportation funding in Iowa was right at $1.5B. The Road Use Tax Fund is over $1.6B.

$40-50M in sports betting tax revenue isn't moving that needle.
It's just the optics. Most people are too stupid to look deeper and see the real issue. Most politicians don't care enough to work that hard. They'd rather just cozy up to the lobbyists and ride the gravy train.
 

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Funding roads is a laughable cop-out. FY24 transportation funding in Iowa was right at $1.5B. The Road Use Tax Fund is over $1.6B.

$40-50M in sports betting tax revenue isn't moving that needle.
I wasn't following the connection either, but this may be related to the Rebuild Iowa Infrastructure Fund, which (in addition to the RUTF) does fund some transportation related projects. Over 80% of revenues to the fund comes from wagering taxes.

Digging further, I think what would be needed is a change to Iowa code section 8.57. It appears to me that this code may require wagering revenue in excess of certain thresholds to be directed to the RIIF.

Assuming the legislature would still have an interest in directing excess funds to the RIIF, the ask may need to be a specific off-the-top for supporting in-state collegiate athletics. If this was defined, it could inform the increase needed to keep other beneficiaries if wagering tax receipts whole.
 

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I've received some preliminary feedback from state legislators that this should not take precedent over funding roads and veterans, so work to be done. Any messaging to legislators is always helpful to increase awareness.
:rolleyes:So the state is not currently funding roads and "veterans"? Wasn't the state touting their budget surplus a couple years ago. Obviously things that actually matter should be funded before college sports but if their doing their job why aren't those things already taken care of? Doesn't one party run the whole state, what's the hold up.
 

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Hawks hoping we can't keep up. We have a better basketball team and better access to the football playoffs. "Iowa is only big enough for one power team", they implore.

Iowa fans are ignorant idiots. There is nothing etched in stone that they have a locked in path forward either. Never underestimate how deep this greed can run.