ISU-UNI POST game thread

[Jer]

I do have to follow you up with that and say the players really haven't bought into the new system and staff like they need to. I know they see a bright future for the program and I hear them saying great things about the staff but that's different than actually forgetting how you've done things in the past and starting over for a new style of coaching. I think it's probably taking things longer than the staff would like behind the scenes but we'll get there eventually. I had low expectations for this year and none for next year and I still think that's probably the right mindset. Just go and have fun and try to relax (unlike me pulling my hair out yet again).

 

[gwoodclone]

Jeremy, I'm going to agree with you that the future is going to be much better. We just have to stick around and support ISU until it gets here. This year is going to be the low point of my time as a Cyclone fan, and it's going to be so hard and so tempting to give up on ISU, but I will stick with it. I just hope everyone else does too....

 

[Wesley]

Is it the players? The coaches? A combination of both? Before the season I had expected 4, maybe 5 wins.:no:

I think they are burned out under Gene's tough summer.

 

[Wesley]

Anyone calling for Chizik's head right now doesn't know what they are talking about...two games with McCarney's players he's had, and deserves a hell of a lot longer than that. Both games were winnable but the fact is we just aren't a good team that can afford to make many mistakes, like we have the first two weeks...we lost tonight because we turned the ball over four times and UNI didn't turn it over once. Chizik didn't make one of those turnovers. I'm not going to sit here and say Chizik is an amazing coach, but I'm also not going to call for his head...he's been here for TWO GAMES...TWO GAMES people. Save your judgement until the guy has had a chance...tonight was a bad, bad loss, but come on...

I am more concerned about the same level of 08 recruiting. Who would sign up here now?

 

[Wesley]

Mac won every single home opener...which sounds simple, but man does it take life out of the season when you lose to a mid major team at home, no matter how good they are. Follow it up with a loss to a team with 20 less scholarships that plays in a 16,000 seat stadium? Wow.

If we beat Iowa, then UNI is the best team in state. Drake also is not bad. Sounds like basketball all over again. Hmmmm.

 

[Wesley]

Let me ask this, what did people really expect this year? We have pretty much the same players that did nothing last year, a completely new staff with very little experience with the players they're trying to coach, a tough schedule against a veteran UNI team (regardless of their stature), a QB that hasn't made a good decision in over a year and no experience at so many positions.

If you expected us to be able to compete with everybody, you drank way too much kool-aid or smoked way too much weed. This isn't about coaching, this is about giving a guy a chance to at least have a couple recruiting classes under his belt, a few games to see what his players can actually do and to have fans that support their team instead of booing like Hawkeye babies.

I expected to win the first two and then probably none. I have recalculated.

 

[Wesley]

This is the world we live in now as far as complaints.

Heck complaining helped get the last three coaches fired. Obviously there was a reward out there to the complainers here lately. Complaining about Morgan, Complaining that we better not lose Cael, and Complaining that McCarney was a snake oil salesman.

The precedent has been set with short leashes around here.

Also, I expected us to win against UNI. I knew that Kent State was a solid ballclub, but I expected that game to be close all the way. It was that. I was "OK" with that loss. But, to follow that up in week 2 with a loss to UNI was ridiculous. And to start calling the fans "hawkeyes" because they are calling out the coaches isn't fair either. ISU was a better team last year at this point under McCarney.

Last year in week two we actually beat a D-I team in week 2.

Did I expect the team to be better athletically now? No. But I expected better fundamentals, fewer penalties, and a team that might get beat narrowly by UNI. I did not expect the loss, and if you did, you should have said something.

Coaches can and should take responsibility for games like this. At least in any public forum. I expect Chizik will. But, as fans we shouldn't just let him off the hook because it's year one should we? Hold him accountable.

UNI is better than Kent State. Did we improve from first to second game? What do you think?

 

[mwitt]

You guys can complain about the coaching and playcalling all you want. Fine. I don't understand why we don't go to Blythe more, either. I'm not saying go to him every play, I'm saying go to him on some plays. We don't even do that.

In the first 18 minutes of the game, we saw this:
-botched extra point
-fumbled punt
-missed FG

...and that's just special teams blunders. That's not including Meyer's interception.

Then you factor in that we fumbled again on a botched shotgun snap -- second week in a row.

That's not coaching. The coaches don't kick it, snap it, throw it to the wrong team, or drop a punt.

One thing tha tcould be coaching, though, is the routes that we run. Similar to last year, it appears that our receivers are stationary everytime they make a catch. That makes it almost impossible to have a good YAC (yards after catch). UNI, on the other hand, caught almost all of their passes on the move.

 

[cycloneinmonaco]

I disagree. When a team is horrible on fundamentals - that's coaching. When an team of comparable talent runs 10+ yard plays at will, that's coaching. When no adjustments are made, that's coaching. ISU should be 2-0. That's coaching. Recruiting is great, but you have to know what to do come gametime.

 

[Drive4cy]

In our last 16 games overall we have a 4-12 record. There's more wrong with that picture than X's and O's.

 

[cyclonedcm]

We looked much better when we went to a no-huddle offense.

 

[cyclonedcm]

Zac Sandvig should have his scholarship pulled.

 

[cyclonedcm]

Our offense looks very similar to last year's... I heard that McFarland is a Barney Cotton disciple.

 

[cygrads]

If we beat Iowa, then UNI is the best team in state. Drake also is not bad. Sounds like basketball all over again. Hmmmm.

Thank God we don't play Drake!

 

['Clones Fan]

After this game I am convinced that we have two major problems. The offensive and defensive lines. We cannot win regardless of who the qb is when we our opponents can get pressure with the front four and we cannot get pressure with them.

I think that we have plenty of talent at the skill positions, but the lines blow.

While a different qb may be better, they will still have the same line blocking for em.

 

[C.John]

I think I may have figured it all out. During the off season we all heard about how the coaching staff had the players working out at 5:00am. Well, due to those early starts the players found themselves going to bed earlier and earlier. Fast forward to the start of the season and our first two games have been night games, unfortunately our players are still used to going to bed early each night. So it's no wonder our team has looked sluggish and tired at the end of these two games, it's past their bed times and their trying to play football. So it's not the players. It's not the coaches. It's not the fan's fault. It's the scheduler's fault.
No more night games please, our players need their sleep.

 

[jrcisu79]

Here we go

I got a few things to say so here I go.

Am I the only one that gets sick of hearing "throw it to Blythe" all night in the stands yes he's a GOOD player but he's constantly double teamed, not to mention he doesn't posses the speed to get any separation. And another thing I think we all maybe need to come to the conclusion that maybe Blythe is just above average, I mean really when was the last time he had a dominant game, I honestly can't remember. And don't even get me started on his lack of blocking and/or lack of participation on run plays.

And Meyer doesn't help he couldn't check down to a third or dare i say fourth option if his life depended on it. As soon as the ball snapped he stares down the primary receiver the whole time and if he's not open it's time to run. Frankly it's high school crap that he can't out grow.

I'd say I bought into the hype a little to hard this season like I think everyone did at first but come on we're Big 12 not MAC or god forbid a 1aa program losing to these guys no matter how good they are is unacceptable period. I just think if we're gonna lose at least put Arnaud in get him some reps BEFORE next year. So let me recap Blythe, Meyer overrated big time and if we're gonna suck at least get some experience for the young guys.

Ok guys light me up I wanna hear what you guys think.

 

[ajk4st8]

Re: Here we go

The please throw it to Bylthe comments are ok with me as long as they are directed toward Bret Meyer not the coaching staff.

Meyer is aweful. I cant remember the last time we had a quarterback that bad. Oh well, 10 more games until his career is over.

 

[clonefan_80]

Re: Here we go

I'll agree about Meyer but completely disagree about Blythe. If he was given the chance, I think he could work himself into the 2nd round of the NFL draft, but if the year continues the way it is, he'll be a second day pick.

Last week he should have had 3 TD's. He caught the one, the second one he still brought in an amazing catch, but Meyer led him 15 yards out of bounds, and the third one he almost made a diving catch to bring it in.

I noticed several times that he was single covered last night, some of which were inside UNI's 20 yard line when they were bringing safety blitzes. Everyone in the stadium could see it coming, why don't Blythe and Meyer who have been playing/practicing together for 5 years have some system to audible to a quick one step & throw to the pylon?? Blythe would catch it every time.

Can't remember any breakout games? That's too bad, because the Texas A&M game last year was really something.

You need to get the ball to your best playmaker, and that's Blythe. I can't understand why the offensive systems are so similar this year. They still don't throw to Blythe, I think he was thrown to twice last night, and they run the QB draw all the freakin' time, granted it worked fairly well for once last night, but I lost count after the 7th time..........in the first half.

 

[isuforlife]

Meyer as a freshman

who was the QB when Meyer started as a freshman?
Time to move