Is Laziness Genetic?

BoxsterCy

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What I have is more akin to generic laziness as opposed to genetic laziness with is way cooler. Soon I will move onto geriatric laziness.
 

coolerifyoudid

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People can be lazy in so many ways. I attribute laziness more to "desire/lack of desire". Since different people are driven by different things, I don't see how it's inheritable. Besides, there are plenty of people that may start out as either lazy or (to the contrary) active and gravitate in the opposing direction based on age/personal indifference/trauma.
 

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You say one thing, by saying it's a learned behavior, but then explain the exact opposite when you say you are just like your father.

Now if you said you're dad was a lazy ***, but you bust your hump a good 14 hours a day and love it, you might have something there.


HAHA, just read your post above, sorry. I wonder if being a ****** reader is genetic. I'll have to ask my dad if he sucks at it too. I read that as I've adopted my dad's work ethic.

i said i think its a learned behavior. i have the exact same traits as my father who is in no way biologically-related to me. considering neither my biological brother nor biological sister went to college and I have a master's degree seems to point to environment over genetics. Not saying there is not any link, as I am the only musical one in my family and both my biological siblings are very musical. That clearly is genetic.

but you don't know if your real parents are lazy or not.

My parents are my real parents. I don't really get upset about much in the world but that phrase is one of them.
 

Clonefan94

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i said i think its a learned behavior. i have the exact same traits as my father who is in no way biologically-related to me. considering neither my biological brother nor biological sister went to college and I have a master's degree seems to point to environment over genetics. Not saying there is not any link, as I am the only musical one in my family and both my biological siblings are very musical. That clearly is genetic.

Yeah, that's why I also posted the last two lines in my post. I couldn't delete it and I had nothing else to change my original post to. That's why I said this, "HAHA, just read your post above, sorry. I wonder if being a ****** reader is genetic. I'll have to ask my dad if he sucks at it too. I read that as I've adopted my dad's work ethic."
 

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i said i think its a learned behavior. i have the exact same traits as my father who is in no way biologically-related to me. considering neither my biological brother nor biological sister went to college and I have a master's degree seems to point to environment over genetics. Not saying there is not any link, as I am the only musical one in my family and both my biological siblings are very musical. That clearly is genetic.

There's no way to say this that isn't extremely condescending, but you really don't understand genetics and causation very well.
 

baller21

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My parents are my real parents. I don't really get upset about much in the world but that phrase is one of them.[/QUOTE]


O.K. biological parents. Not much to get upset about. Just be glad your real parents are decent people because not everyone's are.
 

IAStubborn

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Pretty sure it's mostly a learned behavior. I'm adopted and share most of the same social and cultural norms and worth ethic as my father - there is no possible way for it to be genetic.

Pretty sure like most things it is a combination of both nature and nurture the percentage of which is debatable and different in every person but your environment effects how your genetic predisposition is expressed and with the right environment many negative genetic traits can be overcome (and on the flip sight some dispositions are so strong that environment doesn't matter. My two sons have two very different work ethics and inner drives that motivate them despite the same environment (only a grade apart). I have had to be creative in figuring out how to inspire the one less driven to be motivated (environment overcoming genetics) but genetics is certainly a factor in both. I would also argue birth order matters a great deal. I hate nature vs. Nurture discussions because both sides are right.
 
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Erik4Cy

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My parents are my real parents. I don't really get upset about much in the world but that phrase is one of them.

I completely get your annoyance with that phrasing. (I have a sister who is technically a half sister but had a biological father who didn't care enough to want to be in her life. I hate the term half sister, she grew up with me and was raised by the same mother and father that I was raised by my entire life - so she is my sister.) I do get what the poster meant though - you do not know if your *biological* parents are lazy or not.

There's no way to say this that isn't extremely condescending, but you really don't understand genetics and causation very well.

Unfortunately, as condescending as it may be, he has a point mtown.
 

ExCyment

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You mean except for the scientific proof thing from the article. There's also a lot of different health issues that could be passed on that affect a persons energy levels such as Hypothyroidism.

Yes except it didn't prove anything. Maybe the lazy rats learned it from their lazy parents. It would be more convincing it the baby rats were all separated from their parents at birth. You could even put the offspring of the lazy rats with the active rats to see if that changes anything. Interesting, but hardly proof at this point.
 

Erik4Cy

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Pretty sure like most things it is a combination of both nature and nurture the percentage of which is debatable and different in every person.

I would also argue birth order matters a great deal. I hate Nature vs. Nurture discussions because both sides are right.

Completely agree.

Nature or Nurture - it's always gonna be a combination of both.
 

Rabbuk

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I work in a school and see the parents of my lazy kids but its hard to say if the kids are lazy because they aren't parented or if their parents are genetically lazy pieces of ****.
 

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Laziness is an enabled and learned characteristic that I believe is more associated with the family paradigm as opposed to genetics. Laziness is a matter of will power, which is most often driven by one or more of the following: necessity, motivation, or a lack of consequence.

But some put a lot of effort into doing as little as possible. Pathetic and classless is what I'd call those people before I'd call them lazy.
 

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I would say almost every single human behavior and tendency is genetic is some way. Any disposition to be active or inactive or be anything really has at least a little dependence on genetics.

So yes, but who knows how much.
 

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I almost didn't respond to this thread, but then thought, "I bet my parents wouldn't either".

So I decided to end the pattern of familial laziness here and now!

Whew, now I can nap for the rest of the day.

Honey, bring me a twinkie, will ya?