You do realize it was 30-0 at halftime. Ferentz was in major cruise control mode in the second half, if he had kept his foot on the gas they probably would have been in the 50+ point range. I agree that ISU should be improved from last year. You are not implying Iowa didn't are you? You might be too young to remember but there were several equally if not more dominant offensive performances in this series.
Arnaud put together some very good games in his career.
But when he played against Iowa, he really couldn't have been worse.
He leads (or nearly leads) ISU in a lot of categories. Overall he was a good (not great) QB.
Strictly speaking in terms of play against Iowa, I think we can only improve.
Agreed. The other poster slated that if you don't improve at QB you won't win a game this year. I think AA was pretty darn good against teams not named Iowa. So stating that you HAVE to improve is a little tough to say. Is that fair?
I hope that you are correct with the bolded statement but I'm not sure how you are so certian. Iowa was up 28-0 at half and took their foot off of the gas. The way ISU played we could have easily lost that game by scores similar to the Utah and OU games. Even though the score didnt look QUITE as bad the beating was just the same. Complete and utter dominance.
I dont know exactly how people automatically expect our defensive line with many of the same players as last year to be that much better against the offensive line that returns at least 3 starters if not more. And if Coker is half as amazing as all of the Hawk fans think he is probably better than Robinson.
I dont want to be a Debbie downer but I just dont buy that our Defense matches up that much better than last year.
IMO if we are going to compete with Iowa the offense has to move the football. We cant continually give Iowa the ball back after three plays and a punt. The defense was definately dominated last year but when the offense goes 3 and out on the first two posessions and 3 of the first 4 posessions thats bad
ISU needs to take command to correct these 5 areas.
1. ISU never threatens a finese play fake to break a big kickoff return.
2. ISU starts slow and gets behind by two TD's before the offense begins play.
3. ISU falls asleep on defense and allows the big play.
4. Iowa plays this umbrella bend, but don't break defense against ISU to perfection.
5. ISU can't get a pick 6.
1. ISU never threatens a finese play fake to break a big kickoff return.
2. ISU starts slow and gets behind by two TD's before the offense begins play.
3. ISU falls asleep on defense and allows the big play.
4. Iowa plays this umbrella bend, but don't break defense against ISU to perfection.
5. ISU can't get a pick 6.
The biggest key to this game is keeping the defense fresh, the last 2 years it seems like our defense has been on the field the entire first half. That plays right in to Iowa's game, and they're very tough to beat at their own game. Of course this isn't all on the defense, the offense needs to string along some drives, not necessarily score but at least pick up some first downs to keep the clock moving. Our defense should be improved but they can't be out there all day and expect to stop a running game as strong as Iowa's.
I'd love to pick ISU but I see it more like 27-13 Iowa.
I'd love to pick ISU but I see it more like 27-13 Iowa.
Vandenberg didn't play against Indiana last year. He only played a few snaps in the first few games and didn't play the rest of the year.
You bring up good points...and yes I will agree Iowa could have hung 50 on us that day. But what about the Indiana game? Or the Northwestern game? Or Minnesota? Point being Iowa was not nearly as good as they seemed and ISU was not nearly as bad...rose colored glasses? Maybe, but I don't think so and the rest of the season points that out. ISU goes on to beat Texas and rightfully should have beat Nebraska yet Iowa losses to Minnesota and Northwestern and needs a last minute drive to beat Indiana? Does not add up and I'm more than happy calling the game what it is...a total cluster F of a game plan from the ISU coaching staff on top of an obviously solid as hell plan from Iowa's coaches to add insult to injury Iowa's players were more than ready to play. I believe Jon Miller even said it was one of the most flawless performances he'd ever seen out of a hawkeye team.
Will all this happen again this year? Will parker completly have Hermans number? I doubt it...could..but I doubt it.
Hmm, Iowa fan was telling about that. Maybe I'm mixed up. Seems like he had some examples of Vandenberg coming in and not exactly lighting the world on fire...oh well.
I actually think ISU has a better chance of beating Iowa next year than this year because allthough the lost some good guys from last year there were a lot of older guys backing them up, as evidence by the fact that they will probably start three seniors on the Dline this year even though they lost three guys. I think next year their defense will be younger.
It wasn't Indiana, but rather Minny. But you are correct. He did not light the world on fire. He was corner blitzed constantly and didn't react well. Hopefully he has become more aware since his frosh year.
I think you're thinking of the Minnesota game from two years ago (game after the Ohio State game)
I would hope he's learned a few things since his freshman year but we won't know until he steps on the field this year. I fully expect ISU to blitz the hell out of him like Minnesota did that year to see if he indeed learn from that.
What about the Indiana and Minnesota games?
They were part of Iowa's season, which was a talented but inconsistent team. Wins over really good teams like Missouri and Michigan State, dominating performance against ISU, horrible performance against Minnesota, and close but no cigar against Northwestern, Wisky, Arizona and Northwestern. It all adds up to a 8-5 season that leaves Iowa fans wondering what might have been.
I'm not sure ISU's game plan was terrible last year. It probably could have been better, but Iowa's strengths (o-line and solid D) were matched against ISU's weaknesses (a bad D-line and an inaccurate quarterback).
Cyclones just need to play better, period. Played the Huskers off their feet 2 years running, so no reason the game against Iowa shouldn't be competitive.
They were part of Iowa's season, which was a talented but inconsistent team. Wins over really good teams like Missouri and Michigan State, dominating performance against ISU, horrible performance against Minnesota, and close but no cigar against Northwestern, Wisky, Arizona and Northwestern. It all adds up to a 8-5 season that leaves Iowa fans wondering what might have been.
I'm not sure ISU's game plan was terrible last year. It probably could have been better, but Iowa's strengths (o-line and solid D) were matched against ISU's weaknesses (a bad D-line and an inaccurate quarterback).
Cyclones just need to play better, period. Played the Huskers off their feet 2 years running, so no reason the game against Iowa shouldn't be competitive.
