Iowa State Getting a Trophy

stuclone

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A fourth place trophy is kinda stupid but that's cool for the guys I guess.
You must not be a big wrestling fan. Historically, trophies in wrestling have been given to the top 4 teams. Last year was the first year the NCAA did not award a trophy to the 4th place team, so to get 4th but not get hardware for it was frustrating. It is a big deal to get top 4 as a team in wrestling, and the trophy is well deserved by the team and not "stupid" at all.
 

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You must not be a big wrestling fan. Historically, trophies in wrestling have been given to the top 4 teams. Last year was the first year the NCAA did not award a trophy to the 4th place team, so to get 4th but not get hardware for it was frustrating. It is a big deal to get top 4 as a team in wrestling, and the trophy is well deserved by the team and not "stupid" at all.

I did not know that.
 

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You must not be a big wrestling fan. Historically, trophies in wrestling have been given to the top 4 teams. Last year was the first year the NCAA did not award a trophy to the 4th place team, so to get 4th but not get hardware for it was frustrating. It is a big deal to get top 4 as a team in wrestling, and the trophy is well deserved by the team and not "stupid" at all.
I don’t think they meant that the trophy itself is stupid because it’s awesome and hardware is hardware. Nor do I think the posters above aren’t acknowledging the fact they have always awarded a fourth place trophy up until this year. My guess is their “stupid” comment is the fact that a fourth place trophy was ever given out over the decades. I am fine with it, and it’s really not a big deal because the coaches, athletes and fans love it. But it is a very strange number to do as typically a top-3 (gold, silver, bronze type of thing makes sense) or a top-5. Top-4 is just a number you almost never see, so it sticks out in American sport’s culture. That’s all.

But this guy loves that the boys are getting this thing!
 

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I don’t think they meant that the trophy itself is stupid because it’s awesome and hardware is hardware. Nor do I think the posters above aren’t acknowledging the fact they have always awarded a fourth place trophy up until this year. My guess is their “stupid” comment is the fact that a fourth place trophy was ever given out over the decades. I am fine with it, and it’s really not a big deal because the coaches, athletes and fans love it. But it is a very strange number to do as typically a top-3 (gold, silver, bronze type of thing makes sense) or a top-5. Top-4 is just a number you almost never see, so it sticks out in American sport’s culture. That’s all.

But this guy loves that the boys are getting this thing!
This is what I meant, probably shouldn't have said "stupid", just seemed odd to me. I'm not mad about getting more hardware though!
 
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But it is a very strange number to do as typically a top-3 (gold, silver, bronze type of thing makes sense) or a top-5. Top-4 is just a number you almost never see, so it sticks out in American sport’s culture. That’s all.

The NCAA has been handing out top-4 trophies forever in wrestling, but international tournaments also regularly give out 2 bronze medals -- effectively a top-4 -- because of the consolation (repechage) format.

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NCAA got rid of 4th place trophies in multiple sports. I assume they reinstated them for all the other sports also
 

jctisu

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The NCAA has been handing out top-4 trophies forever in wrestling, but international tournaments also regularly give out 2 bronze medals -- effectively a top-4 -- because of the consolation (repechage) format.

2016_Summer_Olympics%2C_Men%27s_Freestyle_Wrestling_97_kg_awarding_ceremony2.jpg
100% correct. Just talking for non-wrestling folks who don’t know it’s a bit of an odd (yes it’s an even number lol) to give trophies to the top-4 because most sports aren’t done that way. Always helpful to explain to novice wrestling fans to continue to educate and grow the sport.
 
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