***Iowa Dual (Saturday, Dec 10th)***
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I don't like pulling redshirts based on desperation (Colbray) or just because a guy looks good in the room (Meeks). But if a guy has shown on the mat he's the best at a given weight and wants to wrestle I'm totally okay with it (Dante). I don't think you have to be an AA caliber guy to be pulled out of redshirt. Not everybody wants to be around for 5 years and that 5th year is a roll of the dice anyway as far as injuries and burnout. I think pulling Storr's shirt for the Iowa dual would have been bad. But it he does well at Midlands and he wants to go then I say go for it.
For example, right now I'd trade a true freshman year from Gabe for what it looks like he's able to do this year.
For example, right now I'd trade a true freshman year from Gabe for what it looks like he's able to do this year.
I agree with this. It also gives us flexibility should he be hurt down the road and need the redshirt. Medical redshirts are a flip of the coin. Also, it is surely pre-mature to call it a 'logjam' at the lower weights with the new recruits, but IF they all panned out, we'd have too many bodies for the weights. Using Storr's season here and banking a redshirt again offers us flexibility. All this assume he A) is better (now) than Meeds & Moreno; and B) he wants to burn his redshirt this year. If either of these are untrue, he should stay in redshirt.
Another issue I think should be discussed is our issues with cutting too much weight. Almost every time we've had a wrestler drop in weight it's ended badly. I understand Pestano is sacrificing for the team and cutting to fill a hole, but pulling that much weight always leads to erratic performances. I suspect Gabe's issue is more injury related, but why not bulk up and give yourself more strength to recover? There have been others in recent years who I can't think of right now that have been much better at the higher weight. I don't think we've heard of Hall having weight issues since moving to 133, but I always wonder if that is some of the reason for his 'uninspired' performances? This may be another area where KJ is either stuck in the old days, or more in tune with freestyle habits.
Apparently you know more the Brands: "Brands told them that Clark could have gone if this was a BiG Ten meet , but decided to give him some more time before Midlands."
It is not supposed to work this way.
And you could say the same over a bunch of upperclassmen over the last few years...
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RE: Storr and his redshirt
(This is part of a larger quote, but....) "This year is and has been all about learning and preparing for next season.”
https://iawrestle.com/2016/12/07/kanen-storr-could-start-saturday-against-the-hawkeyes/
(This is part of a larger quote, but....) "This year is and has been all about learning and preparing for next season.”
https://iawrestle.com/2016/12/07/kanen-storr-could-start-saturday-against-the-hawkeyes/
In that case I hope the redshirt stays on regardless of what happens at Midlands.
I don't disagree with you about Simmons proving himself to be better. But Larson is really good at taking on elite wrestlers and keeping it to a decision or a major at worst. Neither of them were going to win that match but Larson could have saved us a team point or two. Not that it ended up mattering.
Terao and Rodriguez (lost in OT early in the year) are not too bad of indicators either. Simmons was not ready for Saturday mainly due to his weight. I'm thinking maybe that injury that happen in Vegas limited his prepration this past week which caused problem with his weight management. It was a perfect storm...in Iowa City, top kid in the country, recovering from injury and weight management issue. You don't put Larsen out there unless Simmons was too hurt to go. Larsen has been getting beat oftern and by a lot. Lost by TF to Simmons....what you think Gilman would have done? This is not the Larsen that wrestled last year. Pestano and Simmons did not drop weight for the team...they are dropping the weight because they want to be starters on the team. As KJ said, they have to figure out how to manage their weight or they will continue to have days like this. Some one mentioned Moreno going up. The problem is Moreno isn't strong or big enough to be effective at 149. He hasn't really lifted much in two years. I expect to see significant improvement by him at Midlands. If not, he probably will not get back into the lineup. Lastly, Colston made a fairly large drop in weight and he seems to be doing ok. The coaches can help you with weight management but the individual has to be willing to follow the plain. Kind of funny how everyone was complaining about how small everyone was in the lineup a few years ago and now we are cutting too much weight.
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You all don't realize what you're actually doing. You're going to get your boy Brooks beat up even worse!
If your kids biggest motivation is what's said on message boards, he's an even bigger moron than I thought... Which is saying a lot.
I'll clean up nothing. YOU know NOTHING about my son's past. You are an ignorant know-it-all. I didn't raise a bully...and I also didn't raise a punching bag. I raised a bully killer. My son did nothing but defend himself (while in 11th grade) against D1 Naval Academy Varsity football players and another idiot from another college. They just happened to mess with the wrong wrestler. Now, you can go **** in your hat.
You truly are an idiot. Duck Brooks, who he has already beaten...really!? Duck Dudley and Dean...who are ranked above you? Explain that logic to me, Einstein. Downey will break all of them IN HALF, except Dean...who he'll probably pin.
